ATD Chat Thread XV
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jarek
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Yes they will.
At the moment, however, the Capitals have quite possibly not only the best, but the deepest d-corps in the entire league.
VanIslander
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Anybody who thinks Shattenkirk is worth an iota less than Mike Green is... OUT TO LUNCH.
My Caps are going to the conference finals!
Book it!
My Caps are going to the conference finals!
Book it!
jarek
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Anybody who thinks Shattenkirk is worth an iota less than Mike Green is... OUT TO LUNCH.
My Caps are going to the conference finals!
At his peak?
Much worse offensively. Much better defensively. Talking about Shattenkirk of course. Green at his best offensively was very good offensively, even if he didn't provide adequate enough defensive coverage for an ECHL team.
seventieslord
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Really depends what Mike Green you're talking about, VI.
the 1st all-star Green, despite not really being a catalyst, picked up a ton of opportunistic points (at an almost historic level for the era) and wasn't really any worse defensively.
The Green of the past 5 years has just been a so-so #2-3 defenseman, and really that's all Shattenkirk is, aside from the PP. I've seen Blues fans call him their #4 defenseman this season.
He'll add to Washington's depth, absolutely. But someone is going to sign him to "stud #1 all-around D" money and will absolutely rue the day they did.
the 1st all-star Green, despite not really being a catalyst, picked up a ton of opportunistic points (at an almost historic level for the era) and wasn't really any worse defensively.
The Green of the past 5 years has just been a so-so #2-3 defenseman, and really that's all Shattenkirk is, aside from the PP. I've seen Blues fans call him their #4 defenseman this season.
He'll add to Washington's depth, absolutely. But someone is going to sign him to "stud #1 all-around D" money and will absolutely rue the day they did.
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When NYR did that with Brad Richards, they regretted after only what? 2 seasons?
VanIslander
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"Mike Green" and "defensive" I've never seen accurately describe a game.
Of course, we live in a universe where Karlsson is repeatedly called the best defenseman without lightning striking it down.
Of course, we live in a universe where Karlsson is repeatedly called the best defenseman without lightning striking it down.
jarek
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"Mike Green" and "defensive" I've never seen accurately describe a game.
Of course, we live in a universe where Karlsson is repeatedly called the best defenseman without lightning striking it down.
Karlsson is very strong defensively in certain ways. Being a great defensive player isn't just about laying guys out.
seventieslord
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Do you really think Mike Green of the past and Erik Karlsson of the present score their points in the same way? They are completely different players. The only thing that was the same about these guys is that they were more valuable in the offensive zone.
seventieslord
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"Mike Green" and "defensive" I've never seen accurately describe a game.
Of course, we live in a universe where Karlsson is repeatedly called the best defenseman without lightning striking it down.
This, because I gave Green this glowing praise?
wasn't really any worse defensively (than Shattenkirk).
VanIslander
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I've been on record since Green's early years in Washington (as a Caps fan myself), calling him a loser because of his lack of defensive play and asking the franchise time and again to trade him!
Gawd I MUST have dissed him several times on this board.
The boy can't play defense. Period.
Gawd I MUST have dissed him several times on this board.
The boy can't play defense. Period.
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jarek
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What are the Leafs' chances of retaining Boyle past this season? Maybe they offer him a 2-3 year contract. If he believes the team is quickly trending up it might be incentive enough for him to stay.
He's currently getting paid 2 mil per year. Maybe 3 years, 1.5 per year would do it?
He's currently getting paid 2 mil per year. Maybe 3 years, 1.5 per year would do it?
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This isn't 2009 anymore. I believe Toronto will become an attractive destination for free agents much sooner rather than later.
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Honestly, I'd rather not have two spoken-for spaces on the 4th line, and Matt Martin has one.
Best case scenario might be flipping his rights for a small price in the spring.
Best case scenario might be flipping his rights for a small price in the spring.
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I doubt 99% of players would take a paycut period, even if it was to stay in LA, NY or some other actually attractive destination.
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True. Based on what we see from him as a Leaf, I'd probably be comfortable going up to 2.5 or so, but no more. 4th liners simply don't get enough ice time to justify 3.5+, I don't really care how good they are.
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Capitals are the NHLs most complete team at this point. I really think this could be their year, they had a ****** d-corps during Ovies peak and now they may have the best/deepest in the NHL.
seventieslord
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We have thought all these things a few times.
Did Shattenkirk make them better? on paper he did, but did he balance the roster?
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Exactly.The bottom line is Ovechkin needs to be Lafleur if they want to go all the way.
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