At 15th Overall (via Trade) the Red Wings Select G Sebastian Cossa

[Gniwder]

Oh yeah, you're gonna drive yourself nuts. Good luck.

I don't have to drive myself anywhere dude, I'm already there.

 

[Bench]

I don't have to drive myself anywhere dude, I'm already there.

We should carpool.

 

[Gniwder]

We should carpool.

Gas is too expensive, I'm doing crazy remotely. HFBoards is just a part of that.

 

[Spirit19]

Eh, I think Edvinsson busting would have a much bigger impact because he was drafted to give Detroit that 1-2 punch on the back end it hasn't had since the Lidstrom - Rafalski days.

Cossa busting means we wasted a mid 1st in a year we had 2 picks. It's not ideal but it won't be the world ender you think it is. A serviceable goalie can be gotten in free agency every single season.

The fact that serviceable goalies are so plentiful is why this pick is so pivotal. Personally I was very disappointed when the pick was made. If Cossa is anything shy of a Hall of Famer then I will be flat out pi**ed.

 

[simonedvinsson]

The fact that serviceable goalies are so plentiful is why this pick is so pivotal. Personally I was very disappointed when the pick was made. If Cossa is anything shy of a Hall of Famer then I will be flat out pi**ed.

That’s a pretty lame take. Context matters. If he turns out to be a serviceable tender, and no one drafted after him amounts to much, I’d still call it a win.

 

[Spirit19]

That’s a pretty lame take. Context matters. If he turns out to be a serviceable tender, and no one drafted after him amounts to much, I’d still call it a win.

I would consider that a lame take. No player after the 15th pick being any good? Come on. Numerous players after 15 will be hits. Taking a goalie at 15 is riverboat gambling. Frankly it is irresponsible.

 

[simonedvinsson]

I would consider that a lame take. No player after the 15th pick being any good? Come on. Numerous players after 15 will be hits. Taking a goalie at 15 is riverboat gambling. Frankly it is irresponsible.

Sorry. Calling your take “lame” was inappropriate. Obviously (at least likely), there will be more players who make it, but my point is simply that context is important when assessing these things. I don’t see why Cossa has to be a HHoF goaltender for this to be a worthwhile pick. Hardly any goalies make it into the HHoF, so it’s a strange bar to hold him to.

I admit I was firmly in the “Cossa over Wallstedt” camp prior to the draft, but if he can be our backstop for a significant stretch, get us into the playoffs consistently, maybe win a few rounds of playoff hockey, that’s a significant step up from where we’re at now.

I like trading up a lot better than trading down. It shows confidence in who we’re picking. I would’ve been pretty happy with any of Cossa, Wallstedt, Lysell, or Svechkov, but I was really hoping for Cossa.

 

[Gniwder]

I would consider that a lame take. No player after the 15th pick being any good? Come on. Numerous players after 15 will be hits. Taking a goalie at 15 is riverboat gambling. Frankly it is irresponsible.

Welcome back, Oaf.

I was surprised by the goalie pick because he just traded for Ned. Plus this team is still early in the rebuild process, so they should have picked BPA instead of trading up.

Definitely some FOMO drafting in the first 2 rounds.

 

[TCNorthstars]

The fact that serviceable goalies are so plentiful is why this pick is so pivotal. Personally I was very disappointed when the pick was made. If Cossa is anything shy of a Hall of Famer then I will be flat out pi**ed.

RemindMe! 40 years Cossa HOF

 

[Henkka]

Welcome back, Oaf.

I was surprised by the goalie pick because he just traded for Ned. Plus this team is still early in the rebuild process, so they should have picked BPA instead of trading up.

Definitely some FOMO drafting in the first 2 rounds.

Trading for Ned really wasn't against Cossa. We had two goalies nearing 35 old (Greiss & Bernier), so you had do something for that.

After trading 33-year-old Bernier's rights + 3rd to Carolina, we had:

35-year-old Greiss
25-year-old Nedelkovic
18-year-old Cossa

Yzerman quote:

"For us, we had a decision to make," Yzerman said. "We had Jonathan Bernier obviously here, was a pending UFA, and then again, had some discussions with Carolina regarding Alex and for us again, it's a chance to get a younger goaltender. The kids that we have in our system are probably a ways off from playing in the NHL, and we thought this was a good, with Thomas Greiss under contract for one more season, try to bring in a younger goaltender that has some upside and that has potential to be our starter for a number of years. [Nedeljkovic is] relatively inexperienced at the NHL level, but we think he's got real good potential and has a chance to play for us for a number of years."

Nedeljkovic traded to Red Wings by Hurricanes for Bernier | NHL.com

Goalie agrees to two-year contract with Detroit; Carolina gets third-round pick in 2021 NHL Draft

www.nhl.com

 

[heyfolks]

Sebastian Cossa at eliteprospects.com

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Sebastian Cossa, 2002-11-21 Hamilton, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the AHL with Grand Rapids Griffins. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Sebastian Cossa continues to provide a strong presence in goal for the powerful Edmonton Oil Kings in the WHL. During his last seven games, Cossa has a record of 5-2-0 while lowering his GAA. In 32 games, Cossa now has a record of 23-6-3 with a 2.34 GAA, five shutouts, and a .914 SV%.

Detroit Red Wings Prospect Focus: North American Juniors

The Detroit Red Wings currently have seven prospects playing juniors in North America. Each of these players are playing at a high level

octopusthrower.com

 

[heyfolks]

Ozzie was commenting that goalies don't hit their prime until 28.

 

[Reddwit]

The fact that serviceable goalies are so plentiful is why this pick is so pivotal. Personally I was very disappointed when the pick was made. If Cossa is anything shy of a Hall of Famer then I will be flat out pi**ed.

There are several teams around the league that would disagree with this.

 

[golffuul]

There are several teams around the league that would disagree with this.

The 2-3 years after an expansion team enters the league, goaltending is always depleted. This year seems to be no exception and with all the down years from a lot of goaltenders, even more so.

 

[MBH]

The fact that serviceable goalies are so plentiful is why this pick is so pivotal. Personally I was very disappointed when the pick was made. If Cossa is anything shy of a Hall of Famer then I will be flat out pi**ed.

Hall of Famer?
What if he's just an All-Star like Jonathan Quick who helps you win two cups?
There's a difference between serviceable, good, great and legend.
To go from serviceable to legend without acknowledging what's in in between can be very, very important is a weird leap.
It's weird that Wings fans who don't mind trading away picks for Leddy or Nedeljkovic are so adamant that it was a mistake to move up to trade a potential core goalie.

 

[kliq]

double post

 

[kliq]

The fact that serviceable goalies are so plentiful is why this pick is so pivotal. Personally I was very disappointed when the pick was made. If Cossa is anything shy of a Hall of Famer then I will be flat out pi**ed.

That is a ridicules bar to set for Cossa. Since 1994 only 5 "modern day" goalies have been inducted into the Hall of Fame: Fuhr, Roy, Belfour, Hasek and Brodeur. Its a stupid bar for goalies. If he turns into a Vezina caliber goalie, I'd say the pick is a huge success.

With that said, I get your reservations in general about picking a goalie that high. I think Yzerman saw an empty cupboard and felt the need to fill it with the most sure thing he saw in the draft.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

This is a pick we have no business speculating about whether it was right or not until like his D+4. Goalies take forever. Even sure thing prospects like spencer knight has an under 910% this year.

 

[Killerjas]

10/14 against a very meh Lethbridge.

 

[ridilon]

Even though it's frowned upon to speculate on how good or bad this pick is I'm endeavoring to post.

Cossa with b2b shutouts in round 2 of the WHL playoffs. Not too shabby regardless of how elite the team around him is (2nd OA in the W). 6-0 in playoffs. 1.00 GAA. .957 S%. Kid looks like he's playing well at the right time. Goalie of the month for April.

Can't say I'm disappointed. I hope he gets WJC action, that will be very telling indeed.

 

[raymond23]

I’ve only watched highlights but he appears to be remarkably quick for his size. He does look a little awkward out there too but it gets the job done.

Nice to see him perform well so far under pressure. The prospects tourney and wjc left me pretty concerned about that. Hopefully he keeps it up

 

[Reddwit]

Pretty impressive playoff run so far. Those numbers go beyond “competent goalie on a great team.”

 

[Retire91]

Seems like he is enjoying some success, Goalies take forever but this is not bad news.

 

[Dotter]

Yzerman might know a thing or two about drafting goalies.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Yzerman might know a thing or two about drafting goalies.

Yeah i heard that Vasilevskiey guy is pretty good.