Rumor: Artemi Panarin Changes Agents

[Macch]

Happens occasionally. If the Sedins ever left Vancouver I'm sure they would have been a package deal. Grabovski & Kulemin a few years back was essentially a package deal.

Didn't know they were that tight.

That's my bad

 

[WannabeFinn]

I could def see Panarin and Bob combo meal to Florida. With Brassard, Reimer, Heponiemi and a 1st going back to Columbus, contingent on both players extending with the Panthers long-term.

That’s not enough if they’re coming with extensions. Reimer has negative value.

 

[covfefe]

But never a forward and a goalie.

Right you are, but you have to look at the context here - Luongo turns 40 in two months, and Reimer is your classic hot and cold, borderline starter-type. You can maybe squeeze one more season out of those two, but that in itself is a major risk. Montembeault is years away, if he makes it. Trading for Bobrovsky makes a lot of sense for the Panthers.

 

[wintersej]

Given that he's hired Bobrovsky's agent, I'm guessing the two may go as a packaged deal. The link to Florida is making more and more sense.

Things can of course change, but it just screams Florida.

 

[wintersej]

That’s not enough if they’re coming with extensions. Reimer has negative value.

I think you misread here. Florida is the heavy favorite regardless of it they make the trade now or wait until July. Them dumping Riemer helps... but they can pay someone else for that.

 

[Hextallent63]

Bob also moved to ST Petersburgh and bought a place next to Panarin's, the designer who was in charge of innovating Panarin's place, now is working with Bob on his place. They are pretty much inseparable now.

I'm starting to think maybe their wives weren't waiting in Florida.....

 

[CanadienShark]

Or they could just not do that, and sign them as Free Agents.

Absolutely. If Florida is confident they're the only option, that's the smart move. If they have any doubts, then maybe not. For my money, I'd say they'll probably both sign there, especially due to the Dadonov connection. That said, the pen isn't to the paper yet. The NYI could also be a terrific fit for both. It's not as if Florida is the only option for them to go together. Hell, if we move Jones and think Karlsson is a goner, SJ could swoop in. I'm sure there's more too.

 

[justafan22]

Not unless they want to flip Hoffman for a defenseman.

Going into 2019 the Panthers will have 21 mil in cap space

Odds are Luongo retires/LTIR and Reimer is bought out/traded.

Those two contracts would/should equal Bob's new deal.

Add in 9-10mil for Panarin, and you got 11-12mil left over for more players/re-signing Hoffman/Dadonov

What's luongo's cap hit if he retires but isn't LTIR?

 

[CodeE]

Didn't know they were that tight.

That's my bad

Most famous package deal was Kariya/Selanne to the Avs but that was ages ago. It's usually forward/forward with guys who've played with each other. A goalie and a forward is strange considering there are plenty of teams that would sign the forward but not the goalie.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Given that he's hired Bobrovsky's agent, I'm guessing the two may go as a packaged deal. The link to Florida is making more and more sense.

That's literally in one of the breaking news tweets (Friedman), ha ha.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Absolutely. If Florida is confident they're the only option, that's the smart move. If they have any doubts, then maybe not. For my money, I'd say they'll probably both sign there, especially due to the Dadonov connection. That said, the pen isn't to the paper yet. The NYI could also be a terrific fit for both. It's not as if Florida is the only option for them to go together. Hell, if we move Jones and think Karlsson is a goner, SJ could swoop in. I'm sure there's more too.

I think that if they are trying to package themselves for the FA market then they wouldn't draw as much as action than they would hope for in comparison to haggling individually. Regardless the Panthers are the favorite so far but there's already a couple of players that are important to sign also in the near future so thus the favorite status goes only to some extent.
Didn't Jones have like a list of three teams where he can be traded to?

 

[Cotton]

Word on the street is that LA is shipping out Quick+Pallfy+Jason Allison to CBJ for both Bob and Panarin.

Blue Jackets add, Zigmund Palffy is goat.

 

[CanadienShark]

I think that if they are trying to package themselves for the FA market then they wouldn't draw as much as action than they would hope for in comparison to haggling individually. Regardless the Panthers are the favorite so far but there's already a couple of players that are important to sign also in the near future so thus the favorite status goes only to some extent.
Didn't Jones have like a list of three teams where he can be traded to?

Sure, but for a playoff contender with cap space, maybe they feel they can acquire and sign one of them. Again, I don't think it's set in stone that both sign in Florida as UFA. It's my bet, but who knows, I'm often wrong. None of us know.

Not sure about Jones. I know he has a 3 team NTC. I think that means 3 teams he can refuse, but correct me if I'm wrong. I just don't see Wilson handing a "basically" full NTC. He'd go the very limited route or all the way, perhaps a NMC.

 

[Gentle Man]

 

[PG Canuck]

Absolutely. If Florida is confident they're the only option, that's the smart move. If they have any doubts, then maybe not. For my money, I'd say they'll probably both sign there, especially due to the Dadonov connection. That said, the pen isn't to the paper yet. The NYI could also be a terrific fit for both. It's not as if Florida is the only option for them to go together. Hell, if we move Jones and think Karlsson is a goner, SJ could swoop in. I'm sure there's more too.

Yeah Florida is no guarantee but management in Florida seems fairly confident they have a great shot at both. I would not be moving Huberdeau if you feel you have that chance.

 

[LAKings88]

Quite the pick me up for Florida next year.

 

[drktmplr12]

If Panarin and Bob want to play together, then why are they not willing to stay in Columbus?

Not too many teams could afford to add the 16 million or more they would potentially be asking.

i know of one team..

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Sure, but for a playoff contender with cap space, maybe they feel they can acquire and sign one of them. Again, I don't think it's set in stone that both sign in Florida as UFA. It's my bet, but who knows, I'm often wrong. None of us know.

Not sure about Jones. I know he has a 3 team NTC. I think that means 3 teams he can refuse, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Some think that Bread and Bob each might command close to $11mil per so that's a hefty pile of cash for a team that has already prepared themselves to be a contender via their own core players and is looking forward to add some support personnel. I don't think that Panthers can afford to pay each of them that kind of money, maybe for Bread. If Stone is looking for $9mil per in the FA market, I'd rather have him with the Panthers and use that extra $2mil to extend Dadonov and/or Hoffman in 2020.

Capfriendly states that "player submits a 3 team trade list" so that narrows it quite a bit.

 

[Beezeral]

CBJ's chance to try for Huberdeau died when the season started. It was conceivable though still unlikely that the Panthers would have done Huberdeau for Panarin straight up then, but no shot now.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Hold your horses. I'm pretty sure that this whole debacle will come to bite the Panther rear end somehow...

 

[goldenbladz1]

I don’t think he really cares.

I would rather the Hawks go after Stone anyway.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Florida needs to gamble on these two. The Bob deal could be a disaster in long run but f*** it...whats the worst that can happen....they keep missing the playoffs..

 

[ShootIt]

What's luongo's cap hit if he retires but isn't LTIR?

2.84mil for 3 years on Vancouver
1.28mil for 3 years for the Panthers.

 

[WannabeFinn]

I think you misread here. Florida is the heavy favorite regardless of it they make the trade now or wait until July. Them dumping Riemer helps... but they can pay someone else for that.

I didn’t misread anything. Panarin and Bob with extensions are worth more in a trade than that.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

I could def see Panarin and Bob combo meal to Florida. With Brassard, Reimer, Heponiemi and a 1st going back to Columbus, contingent on both players extending with the Panthers long-term.

The package you have offered would suffice for Bobrovsky, assuming he signs an extension with Florida.

Adding Panarin to the deal? Be prepared to sell the farm for the two. What you offered is nowhere near close to what we can get elsewhere for the two in separate trades.