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Honour Over Glory

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Bye Ladd.
3.9 + the 5.5 that is Ladd, is that even enough to sign Barzal long term?

Cap Hit Calculations

SEASONINITIAL BASE SALARYINITIAL CAP HITSIGNING BONUSBUYOUT COSTPOST-BUYOUT EARNINGSSAVINGSCAP HIT (
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2020-21$1,000,000$5,500,000$3,000,000$333,333$3,333,333$666,667$4,833,333
2021-22$1,000,000$5,500,000$3,000,000$333,333$3,333,333$666,667$4,833,333
2022-23$1,000,000$5,500,000$3,000,000$333,333$3,333,333$666,667$4,833,333
2023-24$0$0$0$333,333$333,333-$333,333$333,333
2024-25$0$0$0$333,333$333,333-$333,333$333,333
2025-26$0$0$0$333,333$333,333-$333,333$333,333
TOTAL$3,000,000$16,500,000$9,000,000$2,000,000$11,000,000$1,000,000$15,499,998
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LMAO...so like 750k~ savings for a buyout the first few years, ouch.

Barzal should be getting at least 9m/yr for however long of a term he's willing to accept wasting his career on Long Island for.
 

Honour Over Glory

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Probably not worth it then. Wonder what they do.
I think they will do the usual, bury Ladd in the AHL or he'll develop a magic rash. Then they'll need to move Clutterbuck with that Avs 2nd, he's owed 2.5m/yr in actual salary, so he's the right sort of cheap for a cheap ass owner (Smelynk) to take on to add veterans to a younger team.

If they could also find a way to dump Komarov (he has an NTC or something) then they'll be in a good spot to sign Barzal.
 
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Honestly that's what Pettersson should be earning.

He’s a good top 4 D man. It’d have to be a one or two year deal to get close to that number. He got 5 years and 1 or 2 are UFA. Plus he did a favour and signed a one year deal team friendly deal last season.
 

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He’s a good top 4 D man. It’d have to be a one or two year deal to get close to that number. He got 5 years and 1 or 2 are UFA. Plus he did a favour and signed a one year deal team friendly deal last season.
He’s a passable #4/5. 3.5m/yr would have been “acceptable.”
 

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He’s a passable #4/5. 3.5m/yr would have been “acceptable.”

I think your underselling him there but anyway the term bumped up an AAV especially going into UFA years. If he was on a 2 year deal that 3.5 mil number would have been about right (probably less although that team friendly contract this season is a factor behind the scenes)
 

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Isn't there some lame rumour about Hoffman and the canucks that some reddit bloke said could happen by some arbitrary deadline?
 

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Isn't there some lame rumour about Hoffman and the canucks that some reddit bloke said could happen by some arbitrary deadline?

Lebrun said Canuck checked in on him a couple weeks ago but they are over the salary cap so would need to figure that out first.

His biggest offer so far has been in Russia

 

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Lebrun said Canuck checked in on him a couple weeks ago but they are over the salary cap so would need to figure that out first.

His biggest offer so far has been in Russia


It's not like Hoffman was just coming off some "measly" 3m/yr contract.

He just wrapped up a 4yr deal in which he made 20.75m. Taking a 1yr deal at even 4m and continue to produce at the rate he does, would make sure teams know he's worth more than that when Seattle enters the league and teams start off loading bad contracts to them with major sweeteners to make space for the incredible amount of UFA's that will still flood the market next summer.

That bloke must have Allan Walsh as his agent or something.
 
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It's not like Hoffman was just coming off some "measly" 3m/yr contract.

He just wrapped up a 4yr deal in which he made 20.75m. Taking a 1yr deal at even 4m and continue to produce at the rate he does, would make sure teams know he's worth more than that when Seattle enters the league and teams start off loading bad contracts to them with major sweeteners to make space for the incredible amount of UFA's that will still flood the market next summer.

That bloke must have Allan Walsh as his agent or something.

He’ll be running into internal caps right now. No harm in waiting to see if teams can open up more $ so he gets something closer to what he wants.
 

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Arbitration dust has yet to settle, also isn't there some 2nd buyout window popping up soon?

Only arbitration teams can qualify for 2nd buyout. I don’t think there are many left. Think at the moment it’s only in play for Buffalo, NYR, Carolina, Ottawa and Florida. There will be no more eligible 2nd buyouts after Remembrance Day.


A 2nd buyout window will open:
The window begins in 2 days, & is open for 24 hours.
Players eligible for buyout must:
1. Have a cap hit =>$4,000,000
2. Had been on the reserve list on the trade deadline
 
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Only arbitration teams can qualify for 2nd buyout. I don’t think there are many left. Think at the moment it’s only in play for Buffalo, NYR, Carolina, Ottawa and Florida. There will be no more eligible 2nd buyouts after Remembrance Day.


A 2nd buyout window will open:
The window begins in 2 days, & is open for 24 hours.
Players eligible for buyout must:
1. Have a cap hit =>$4,000,000
2. Had been on the reserve list on the trade deadline
Yeah those are one of the teams I think he ends up on.

I think in the end, he signs with the Rangers buyout or not. I mean the only buyout I can see the Rangers contemplating is Smith (2.783m cap hit yr1, 783k yr2, where as he's off the books next season, so it'd be a waste).

Buffalo should be buying out Hutton and signing Howard to some dirt cheap 1yr deal and then bring in Hoffman for 1yr as well.

They might be a bubble playoff team then.
 

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Yeah those are one of the teams I think he ends up on.

I think in the end, he signs with the Rangers buyout or not. I mean the only buyout I can see the Rangers contemplating is Smith (2.783m cap hit yr1, 783k yr2, where as he's off the books next season, so it'd be a waste).

Buffalo should be buying out Hutton and signing Howard to some dirt cheap 1yr deal and then bring in Hoffman for 1yr as well.

They might be a bubble playoff team then.

All arbitration now settled so won’t be any buyouts after Monday

Florida did well with Weegar 3x3.25 mil

 
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