Around the NHL: Part III – Oilers Fire Chiarelli [Update: Still Suck]

[Blue Blooded]

Still can't believe that Tampa gave up his rights so easily.

 

[NYR94]

The ROR trade looks absolutely ghastly for Buffalo.

Patrik Berglund: 4 pts—dipped
Vladimir Sobotka: 11 pts
Tage Thompson: 11 pts
2019 pick (19th overall)

Ryan O'Reilly: 61 pts

Who is buffalo's 2nd line c after eichel? I cant even name him

 

[NYR Viper]

Who is buffalo's 2nd line c after eichel? I cant even name him

Reinhart I think?

 

[aufheben]

Who is buffalo's 2nd line c after eichel? I cant even name him

Reinhart I think?

Sobotka/Mittelstadt, who are both closer to 4th liners.

 

[aufheben]

well we're gonna get less than that for Hayes... but rebuild

O’Reilly is better than Hayes, and the Sabres were supposed to be wrapping up the rebuild, the Rangers are still in the process. Maybe I’m underrated Tage Thompson, but a first and a good prospect for Hayes is probably a better return than O’Reilly’s. I mean the Sabres essentially just gave the Blues a #1C. The guy could finish top-3 in Hart voting.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

O’Reilly is better than Hayes, and the Sabres were supposed to be wrapping up the rebuild, the Rangers are still in the process. Maybe I’m underrated Tage Thompson, but a first and a good prospect for Hayes is probably a better return than O’Reilly’s. I mean the Sabres essentially just gave the Blues a #1C. The guy could finish top-3 in Hart voting.

BuT hE wAs ThE pRoBlEm!

 

[aufheben]

BuT hE wAs ThE pRoBlEm!

Evander Kane, Ryan O’Reilly, Taylor Hall... I’m always skeptical when a player has a reputation as a “cancer” or not a “leader.”

 

[duhmetreE]

O’Reilly is better than Hayes, and the Sabres were supposed to be wrapping up the rebuild, the Rangers are still in the process. Maybe I’m underrated Tage Thompson, but a first and a good prospect for Hayes is probably a better return than O’Reilly’s. I mean the Sabres essentially just gave the Blues a #1C. The guy could finish top-3 in Hart voting.

R'OR is better than Hayes, that's why Hayes will not get paid 10.5% of cap. It doesn't mean we should just giveaway a 2C for 'hopes'. 'Wrapping up the rebuild' , teams that trade away valuable assets like that will be in a 'forever' rebuild.

That's what ROR returned with term, Hayes will not get that.

You don't trade 26 year old improving top6 centers. It's asinine

 

[Leetch3]

R'OR is better than Hayes, that's why Hayes will not get paid 10.5% of cap. It doesn't mean we should just giveaway a 2C for 'hopes'.

That's what ROR returned with term, Hayes will not get that.

You don't trade 26 year old improving top6 centers. It's asinine

if he wants to be here he can resign over the summer along with the hopes

 

[duhmetreE]

if he wants to be here he can resign over the summer along with the hopes

That's an unneeded risk and if that does happen his cap hit goes up.

 

[aufheben]

R'OR is better than Hayes, that's why Hayes will not get paid 10.5% of cap. It doesn't mean we should just giveaway a 2C for 'hopes'. 'Wrapping up the rebuild' , teams that trade away valuable assets like that will be in a 'forever' rebuild.

That's what ROR returned with term, Hayes will not get that.

You don't trade 26 year old improving top6 centers. It's asinine

I would not use the ROR trade as a benchmark for value though because it was a bad trade.

 

[duhmetreE]

I would not use the ROR trade as a benchmark for value though because it was a bad trade.

The best asset we will get is a late 1st. Hopefully I'm wrong

 

[aufheben]

The best asset we will get is a late 1st. Hopefully I'm wrong

Hayes can return better value than ROR with lesser assets coming back because he’s just not as good as ROR and is a rental.

 

[duhmetreE]

Hayes can return better value than ROR with lesser assets coming back because he’s just not as good as ROR and is a rental.

I've read this a few times... still confused

 

[aufheben]

I've read this a few times... still confused

I mean value relative to the players.

 

[duhmetreE]

I mean value relative to the players.

It's not all about value for me. It's the unmitigated risk. We do not have a 2C of the future. We finally have a 1-2C combo; why are we so quick to give it up? Build around it.

I see Hayes as a valuable asset in the now and the future. He's a guy that can turn into that veteran presence.

 

[aufheben]

It's not all about value for me. It's the unmitigated risk. We do not have a 2C of the future. We finally have a 1-2C combo; why are we so quick to give it up? Build around it.

I see Hayes as a valuable asset in the now and the future. He's a guy that can turn into that veteran presence.

There’s a risk in not trading him too, no?

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Evander Kane, Ryan O’Reilly, Taylor Hall... I’m always skeptical when a player has a reputation as a “cancer” or not a “leader.”

At least in Buffalo's case, it is a highly dysfunctional team and is going nowhere fast, no matter how many young guns and stars are on the team because it's managed terribly. Same with Edmonton. Hall has been great in NJ and Kane, to an extent, has been well liked in SJ. Poorly ran organizations seep to every position in them. Buffalo ran a Hart candidate and a very, very good player out.

but muh leaderships muh lockeroom

 

[Lion Hound]

Who is buffalo's 2nd line c after eichel? I cant even name him

Currently it's Casey Mittelstadt with Sheary and Reinhart on the wings.

Rodrigues and Larsson are the other 3 and 4 C's.

 

[duhmetreE]

There’s a risk in not trading him too, no?

Unless his demands are Callahan-type of unreasonable, I cant see why they should be that far apart

 

[Leetch3]

That's an unneeded risk and if that does happen his cap hit goes up.

his cap hit goes up regardless. he's not gonna sign for less money cause its cold out

 

[aufheben]

Unless his demands are Callahan-type of unreasonable, I cant see why they should be that far apart

Why discount the simplest explanation?

 

[effen]

Rangers current sit in 20th place, but are just 1 point out of 25th and 6 points out from 29th.

• Chicago Vs Detriot (3pt game Wings!)
• Winnipeg Vs Colorado (Avs!)

If all goes well at the end of the night Rangers will be in 22nd.

gReAT 2 PoInTs LaSt NiGHt bTw tEaM CaNt eVeN TaNK PRoPerLy

 

[effen]

It's not all about value for me. It's the unmitigated risk. We do not have a 2C of the future. We finally have a 1-2C combo; why are we so quick to give it up? Build around it.

I see Hayes as a valuable asset in the now and the future. He's a guy that can turn into that veteran presence.

I think almost everyone would re-sign Hayes. It's the NMC he's going to command.

 

[NYR94]

DSP waived by Washington. He is a good playoff scorer. Trade incoming?