Around the NHL - Episode XLXII

[BankStreetParade]

Zibanejad has the 10th most points of any center in the last 3 years and 19th most points of any forward.

He's also the far better two-way player. Ridiculous that Tkachuk should demand anywhere close to as much.

bUt wHaT aBOuT ThE InTAngIbLeS????

 

[OmniSens]

Zibanejad has the 10th most points of any center in the last 3 years and 19th most points of any forward.

He's also the far better two-way player. Ridiculous that Tkachuk should demand anywhere close to as much.

Tkachuk's argument would be Zibby will be on the decline in the next few years while Brady will only get better. I hate it as much as the next person, but I mean if it takes 8.4 for Brady, just do it. Cap hits will only go up. I remember the same crowd worrying when Chabot signed for 8x8.

 

[Rodzilla]

Tkachuk's argument would be Zibby will be on the decline in the next few years while Brady will only get better. I hate it as much as the next person, but I mean if it takes 8.4 for Brady, just do it. Cap hits will only go up. I remember the same crowd worrying when Chabot signed for 8x8.

I am okay with Chabot’s salary but I dont think its a steal either, at all

 

[Daffy]

bUt wHaT aBOuT ThE InTAngIbLeS????

What's with the weird capitalization?

 

[BankStreetParade]

What's with the weird capitalization?

Mocking the grossly overused reason why Tkachuk should earn that kind of money. You know, since the argument can't possibly be made from a production standpoint we'll lean on something esoteric like intangibles to inflate his value.

And, to be clear, I really like Tkachuk as a player and think he brings things to the table that don't always show up on score sheets but it's not possible to have a reasonable and rational discussion about it.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Zibanejad extends with the Rangers. 8.5M x 8YRs.

Obligatory reminder that all we have for trading this elite #1 center is JBD, Gustavsson and Tychonick.

I really like Zibby, but the last half of that deal is going to hurt.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I really like Zibby, but the last half of that deal is going to hurt.

Like any UFA contract really.

 

[Masked]

I am okay with Chabot’s salary but I dont think its a steal either, at all

Would be if the pandemic didn't make the cap stagnant.

Assen na yo!

 

[cudi]

might as well tag Jack Eichel in this comment

 

[DJB]

might as well tag Jack Eichel in this comment

Dang this feels like Guerin doing this to Eichel;

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I totally see how important it was to get a left handed center for bobby Ryan.

 

[JD1]

I really like Zibby, but the last half of that deal is going to hurt.

The way the league is going, getting younger and faster, I think the back half of many of these deals s going to hurt. Stone. Barkov. Barkov is a little younger than Zibanejad. I don't think this franchise can play in these games. We need to lock guys up for as long as possible coming off ELCs and then look to move them prior to the big long term UFA deal

 

[Xspyrit]

Zibanejad extends with the Rangers. 8.5M x 8YRs.

Obligatory reminder that all we have for trading this elite #1 center is JBD, Gustavsson and Tychonick.

For me, it's more the fact that they are not scared to spend money at all. They are ready to do what is necessary

I really like Zibby, but the last half of that deal is going to hurt.

Not for a team like the New York Rangers. There will always be ways to "get out of it" if needed

 

[BloodRedArmy]

Turris on waivers. Surely he could be a decent depth player here. Bridge likely burned tho...

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

The way the league is going, getting younger and faster, I think the back half of many of these deals s going to hurt. Stone. Barkov. Barkov is a little younger than Zibanejad. I don't think this franchise can play in these games. We need to lock guys up for as long as possible coming off ELCs and then look to move them prior to the big long term UFA deal

Unfortunately true.

Most UFA deals (anything 6 years and over, really) almost never work out well for the team. It sucks though. It seems players are getting the money both ways now - paid for projected performance on their second deal, then paid again for past performance on the UFA deal. Something has to give pretty soon.

 

[Ouroboros]

Ourf takes him to 37

that’s a little long

wonder if they are out of eichel now . Sens should strike

The Sens are ready to strike.

Brannstrom for Ryan Strome.

 

[JD1]

Unfortunately true.

Most UFA deals (anything 6 years and over, really) almost never work out well for the team. It sucks though. It seems players are getting the money both ways now - paid for projected performance on their second deal, then paid again for past performance on the UFA deal. Something has to give pretty soon.

I wonder if it's the old boy GM network that has to give. It's a pretty exclusive club of very high paying jobs. And I'm kind of thinking it's more the old boy network that is still handing out these deals

 

[Xspyrit]

Unfortunately true.

Most UFA deals (anything 6 years and over, really) almost never work out well for the team. It sucks though. It seems players are getting the money both ways now - paid for projected performance on their second deal, then paid again for past performance on the UFA deal. Something has to give pretty soon.

I wonder if it's the old boy GM network that has to give. It's a pretty exclusive club of very high paying jobs. And I'm kind of thinking it's more the old boy network that is still handing out these deals

NHL teams are pretty much aware of this but they are still ready to play the spending game because if they don't, their rival teams will. There's plenty of teams that would spend more if it was possible but the salary cap limits them so it gives a chance to the "poor teams". Some owners are ready to sacrifice a bit of profit or even pocket a few millions themselves to have a "better chance to win".

It's a playground for billionaires. Many teams are in markets where it's easy to sellout your rink even if the ticket price is high. They also sell a lot of merchandise and have several other important revenues. Roster salary expenditure is not a big deal for them. Example : where I live, they make a lot of profit every year and that's without Evenko who is a money printing machine. They could spend a lot more on their roster and wouldn't blink an eye.

Based on that, several teams are not really scared to burn a few millions there and there. In this case, Zibanejad is 28 y/o, they must think/hope he'll be a great/good contributor at least during the first 5 years. They are ready to risk the last few years because it brings down the AAV NOW... They probably could have gotten him on a 6 years deal instead but that AAV would be much higher

Must be a fun feeling when your favorite team is rich and not scared to burn money. We find these deals "outrageous" but it's also nothing compared to basketball, baseball and football.

 

[playasRus]

Tkachuk's argument would be Zibby will be on the decline in the next few years while Brady will only get better. I hate it as much as the next person, but I mean if it takes 8.4 for Brady, just do it. Cap hits will only go up. I remember the same crowd worrying when Chabot signed for 8x8.

That's a terribly flawed and short sighted argument for Brady considering Zibanejad signed extremely team friendly seals in 2.5M X 2 years followed by 5.5M X 5 years in his "I'm getting better" years that Brady is in. And to boot, Zibanejad was matching him in points in his 3 ELC years And pacing 55pt per 82 in his two bridge years.

 

[cudi]

you get an A, you get an A, everybody gets an A!!!

 

[OmniSens]

you get an A, you get an A, everybody gets an A!!!

I think the captaincy should easily go to Kreider or Zibby... Unless, they're waiting for Laf to mature more.

 

[TheDebater]

you get an A, you get an A, everybody gets an A!!!

It is 2021, we are all special!