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[101st_fan]

The reality of the league is that Wilson is the type player every team would love to have ... he can both goon it up AND actually play a top 6 role.

 

[OldFan]

Wilson is an uncontrollable player and everyone knows it. Just waiting for the day when he loses it and really hurts someone. It’s coming.

 

[Viqsi]

That is why I said it may take a year or two for the NHL to do something.

Let's hope that there isn't another Steve Moore type incident while we are waiting.


For all of those people on the main boards who posted that all NHL teams want a Tom Wilson. Up yours!

Why go back to the Bad Old Days of 1975? The NHL is their own worst enemy. Bettman has been against excessive violence in hockey. Now is not the time to turn away from that policy. I still think that Gary Bettman will hang on for many more years, even though he is 68 years old.

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To be fair, I would love a Tom Wilson that isn't a massive sociopathic asshole on the ice. Sadly, that Tom Wilson does not appear to exist.

 

[LCPreds]

The only reason you need a Tom Wilson is because of people who play like Tom Wilson.

(excluding the fact he actually contributes to offense)

 

[101st_fan]

The only reason you need a Tom Wilson is because of people who play like Tom Wilson.

(excluding the fact he actually contributes to offense)

Other fanbases around the league felt the same about Tootoo who lacked the offensive contributions of Wilson.

 

[LCPreds]

Other fanbases around the league felt the same about Tootoo who lacked the offensive contributions of Wilson.

Yeah no real reason for those players to exist other than to counter each other.

 

[101st_fan]

Yeah no real reason for those players to exist other than to counter each other.

22, 21, 13 ... Wilson's goal totals in the last three seasons. For all of his disciplinary issues, the kid can actually play.

 

[Legionnaire11]

Yeah no real reason for those players to exist other than to counter each other.

Hardly, Tootoo was an asset for several years by drawing a lot more penalties than he took. He only became a liability when he started thinking he was a scorer and stopped being a pest. What you said could be considered true about the goon enforcers of the '94-05 era, but the energy pests of the current era are useful in their roles.

Wilson is different because he continues to headshot and cheap shot guys into injury. Tootoo definitely crossed the line a few times in his career, but with Wilson it's multiple times each season. our current Herd line does it right. They set the tone with pace and physical play, pressure the net, draw penalties but don't play particularly close to the edge, let alone crossing that line.

 

[LCPreds]

22, 21, 13 ... Wilson's goal totals in the last three seasons. For all of his disciplinary issues, the kid can actually play.

Yeah I specifically mentioned in the first post you commented that I was referencing Wilson’s insane side. Perhaps it wasn’t clear.

 

[Kat Predator]

Wilson is an uncontrollable player and everyone knows it. Just waiting for the day when he loses it and really hurts someone. It’s coming.

Could be the best player in his cell block, you mean?

 

[Kat Predator]

Saw the score of the Bolts/Cats game and thought McSieve had started again. Nope. It was Vasilevskiy.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Stars down 1-3 in the first against the Hawks. Are they going to make a game of it and at least try to get the points tied up or are they going to just pack it in?

 

[Armourboy]

Stars down 1-3 in the first against the Hawks. Are they going to make a game of it and at least try to get the points tied up or are they going to just pack it in?

Probably pack it in.

 

[Kat Predator]

Looking at a monthly winning percentage and ignoring loser points, we have

1. CBJ Apr 14%
2. DAL Feb 20%
2. DET Jan 20%
4. DAL May 25%
4. CHI May 25%
6. DAL Mar 29%

All the rest are 30% or better for the Central. So Dallas owns 3 of the 6 worst months in terms of pure winning percentage. If it wasn't for loser points, they'd have been eliminated a while ago and challenging Detroit and Columbus for draft position.

 

[Armourboy]

Looking at a monthly winning percentage and ignoring loser points, we have

1. CBJ Apr 14%
2. DAL Feb 20%
2. DET Jan 20%
4. DAL May 25%
4. CHI May 25%
6. DAL Mar 29%

All the rest are 30% or better for the Central. So Dallas owns 3 of the 7 worst months in terms of pure winning percentage. If it wasn't for loser points, they'd have been eliminated a while ago and challenging Detroit and Columbus for draft position.

That's why I laughed yesterday when I saw someone from Dallas say we weren't good because we had so many points from overtime wins.

It's like yall literally picked up like 14 points from losing in overtime, at least we could win most of ours

 

[Kat Predator]

That's why I laughed yesterday when I saw someone from Dallas say we weren't good because we had so many points from overtime wins.

It's like yall literally picked up like 14 points from losing in overtime, at least we could win most of ours

For a 5 month season, owning 3 of the worst winning percentage months in the entire division is not something to write home about.

Counting from the other direction, they own the 35th, 36th, and 38th best winning months out of the 40 total.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

And the calendar splits for the Preds aren't bad. Iirc February is the only month that was less than .500 and only by one game, maybe 6-7?.?.?

 

[Kat Predator]

And the calendar splits for the Preds aren't bad. Iirc February is the only month that was less than .500 and only by one game, maybe 6-7?.?.?

Right. Feb was the "Month of Panic button pushing". We were 46%. (6 wins in 13 games.)

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Right. Feb was the "Month of Panic button pushing". We were 46%.

And as bad as March started it ended with a 6 game win so the month overall was fine. April and May on the other hand made this season what they are. Good stuff and glad Poile didn't sell a month ago or we'd be talking about the draft lottery....

 

[drwpreds]

Looking at a monthly winning percentage and ignoring loser points, we have

1. CBJ Apr 14%
2. DAL Feb 20%
2. DET Jan 20%
4. DAL May 25%
4. CHI May 25%
6. DAL Mar 29%

All the rest are 30% or better for the Central. So Dallas owns 3 of the 6 worst months in terms of pure winning percentage. If it wasn't for loser points, they'd have been eliminated a while ago and challenging Detroit and Columbus for draft position.

Yep- not only that we have EIGHT more wins than Dallas (30-22). Eight more wins and yet until yesterday they still cold have finished ahead of us.

And, they have now played 55 games and won only 22 of them- and almost made the playoffs

Ridiculous

 

[bdub24]

Sooo Torts is available...ba ha ha ha ha! Couldnt finish it even as a joke. Hope that asshole doesnt find another gig, but you know the little fella will

 

[101st_fan]

Tocchet and Torts will both find jobs.

 

[triggrman]

I didn’t realize how old Dallas was up front.

 

[Armourboy]

I didn’t realize how old Dallas was up front.

Yeah that's a team that could drop off in a hurry. Doesn't help that many of their best Vets have lots of med issues too.

It's one reason I'd like to see us move Ellis out if we can. Couple of older guys with the young guys. Need to make sure we do the same with the forwards.

 

[LCPreds]

The young guys have definitely made Ellis expendable. It’s too bad we didn’t know this a year or two ago. It’s obvious in retrospect but one issue with having a great top 4 for so long is you never really get to see what’s behind them.