Around the NHL 2019-2020 | Offseason Edition

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Ottawa is the no-brainer for worst team, but strange things happen over the course of an entire season. If I had to guess, I'd say Edmonton and NJ will be down with us again. The Rangers could be there as well. If Buffalo is terrible again after next season, may the hockey gods have mercy on their collective souls. The whole Metro looks very shaky, apart from the Caps. Any of those teams could end up imploding in spectacular fashion.

Devils and Rangers are absolutely better now than they were last year.

 

[Red Stanley]

Devils and Rangers are absolutely better now than they were last year.

Considering how bad they were last season, I'm not sold on either team being a whole lot better, but we'll see. For me it'll depend more on whether Hughes and Kakko make their respective rosters and whether they end up contributing significantly.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Considering how bad they were last season, I'm not sold on either team being a whole lot better, but we'll see. For me it'll depend more on whether Hughes and Kakko make their respective rosters and whether they end up contributing significantly.

Considering how bad they were last season, I'm not sold on either team being a whole lot better, but we'll see. For me it'll depend more on whether Hughes and Kakko make their respective rosters and whether they end up contributing significantly.

Subban, Hughes(who will 100% make the team), a year of maturation from Hischier, and a healthy Hall is a better team. Kakko, Panarin, and Trouba is an improved Rangers. Neither are playoff teams, but we are definitely worse.

 

[Red Stanley]

Subban, Hughes(who will 100% make the team), a year of maturation from Hischier, and a healthy Hall is a better team. Kakko, Panarin, and Trouba is an improved Rangers. Neither are playoff teams, but we are definitely worse.

On paper, yes absolutely, and it's quite possible they end up improving, but I'm just skeptical I guess.

 

[Mister Ed]

Rumour is that Marner will be receiving a 12.5M AAV offer sheet today, maybe from the Islanders.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Rumour is that Marner will be receiving a 12.5M AAV offer sheet today, maybe from the Islanders.

I really hope he signs it. If the Leafs match their cap hell will be complete. If they let him go, those 4 1sts are great... But not nearly as helpful as Marner to a win-now team.

Let's assume it's the Islanders, if Toronto turned around and traded those picks what's the best you think they could do, 4 1sts for one Mitch Marner replacement?

 

[FMichael]

Rumour is that Marner will be receiving a 12.5M AAV offer sheet today, maybe from the Islanders.

I'd love to see that - however looking at the #'s via Cap Friendly - not sure where Lou is gonna find the space?

New York Islanders - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[FireBird71]

I'd love to see that - however looking at the #'s via Cap Friendly - not sure where Lou is gonna find the space?

New York Islanders - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Move Leddy

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Gardiner still hasn’t signed I’m intrigued

 

[Winger98]

I really hope he signs it. If the Leafs match their cap hell will be complete. If they let him go, those 4 1sts are great... But not nearly as helpful as Marner to a win-now team.

Let's assume it's the Islanders, if Toronto turned around and traded those picks what's the best you think they could do, 4 1sts for one Mitch Marner replacement?

Those 1st rounders would be nice trade fodder, though. And it gives the leafs financial wiggle room to still go out and grab some depth this year and going forward. On top of that, I don't like the idea of tying up that sort of money on the wing, unless you're looking at Kane.

 

[Hammettf2b]

How many Dmen do they have now? Should we kick some tires for one of them?

 

[Frk It]

How many Dmen do they have now? Should we kick some tires for one of them?

I like this deal for Buffalo.

 

[obey86]

I hate the Sabres but they are absolutely killing it this offseason. This is what I was expecting from Yzerman and the Red Wings this offseason but we've done absolutely nothing. Wanted to be active on the trade market/FA market but not mortgaging the future. Sabres have done a very good job this offseason IMO. Over the last 6 months they have traded for three young right handed defenseman....they probably look to trade Ristolainen now for forward help.

Man, what a great offseason for them.

 

[HisNoodliness]

I like this deal for Buffalo.

Yeah they seem like pretty clear favorites to me. Does anyone still believe Alex is going to be a top 6 forward? Versus Jokiharju who seems to project as a 2nd pairing D pretty comfortably. I love Chicago making mistakes

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

We will see, Nylander is likely to get one of their top 6 spots, the one Saad doesn't occupy. It has taken Alex a but longer but he might be gifted Toews and Kane or Debrincat and Strome.

Risto has to be moving now for winger help I would think. If Buffalo had goalie help they could be interesting. I think Dahlin takes a big step this year.

 

[TheRatPoisoner]

How many Dmen do they have now? Should we kick some tires for one of them?

Don't know much about either player.

I do know this though: seeing Chicago fans upset gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

 

[Winger98]

We will see, Nylander is likely to get one of their top 6 spots, the one Saad doesn't occupy. It has taken Alex a but longer but he might be gifted Toews and Kane or Debrincat and Strome.

Risto has to be moving now for winger help I would think. If Buffalo had goalie help they could be interesting. I think Dahlin takes a big step this year.

I think they have five viable options on the right side. I could see them dealing Bogosian for immediate help, considering his contract situation, and then moving Risto later in the year or next summer. Or at the draft.

 

[obey86]

I think they have five viable options on the right side. I could see them dealing Bogosian for immediate help, considering his contract situation, and then moving Risto later in the year or next summer. Or at the draft.

I don't think anyone would want Bogosian, at least not for anyone in return that would actually help the Sabres.

 

[Bench]

Risto has to be moving now for winger help I would think.

Later, AA.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Later, AA.

Well you do kind of have to pencil in Hronek and Seider on your right side. That is also the problem now in terms of if Trouba does make it to UFA. I guess you address that luxury if it can happen, but I doubt Stevie is looking to sink the assets needed for Risto ala a deal with AA for him. I would think that would be offered up for a Ghost or Krug, or some quality left handed puck mover.

 

[Claypool]

Ristolainen is not a good defenseman. Hard pass.

 

[izlez]

I hate the Sabres but they are absolutely killing it this offseason. This is what I was expecting from Yzerman and the Red Wings this offseason but we've done absolutely nothing. Wanted to be active on the trade market/FA market but not mortgaging the future. Sabres have done a very good job this offseason IMO. Over the last 6 months they have traded for three young right handed defenseman....they probably look to trade Ristolainen now for forward help.

Man, what a great offseason for them.

But... how do you feel about Buffalo's offseason?



And please do not go after Risolainen. Defenseman still need to be able to play defense.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Ristolainen is not a good defenseman. Hard pass.

But... how do you feel about Buffalo's offseason?



And please do not go after Risolainen. Defenseman still need to be able to play defense.

I'll go on the record stating that I think Risto gets an unfair shake and is underrated. He's a second pairing, PP specialist playing the first pairing on a terrible team. Think about how DK looked as a rookie and think about him now, playing above your position is really hard for D. He'd immediately be our best D, and there's always hope that on a new team he can develop his defensive game a bit. Even if not, I think his offensive contributions outweigh his defensive gaffes-admittedly they can be pretty bad.

AA+ for Risto would be an easy move for me.

 

[The Zermanator]

I'll go on the record stating that I think Risto gets an unfair shake and is underrated. He's a second pairing, PP specialist playing the first pairing on a terrible team. Think about how DK looked as a rookie and think about him now, playing above your position is really hard for D. He'd immediately be our best D, and there's always hope that on a new team he can develop his defensive game a bit. Even if not, I think his offensive contributions outweigh his defensive gaffes-admittedly they can be pretty bad.

AA+ for Risto would be an easy move for me.

So what makes you think the exact same thing wouldn't happen here?

I'm not necessarily saying no to Ristolainen, but any D of significance we bring in here is going to be our best and will correspondingly have the biggest workload. That's why bringing in a more all-around dman would be far preferable. If we're talking giving up AA+ then Trouba or Subban would have been the player to pay that price for, they're both far better suited to that top pairing role. But alas it appears we were not in a position to beat the low prices both went for, which makes paying the suggested price for Ristolainen seem unlikely IMO.

 

[Claypool]

The conversation surrounding Ristolainen is the same one people were having about Myers back in 2015.

"He'd be a 50-point, Norris winner in Detroit."

If he's so good, why is Buffalo (of all places) looking to deal him?