Around the NHL: 2018-2019 Off-Season Thread, Stupid Money Season Meets the Doldrums

[Jame]

Honestly, I'd rather have Kucherov than Karlsson given that the Sabres have Dahlin.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kucherov/Karlsson is the basis for the trade.

 

[Aavvaa]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kucherov/Karlsson is the basis for the trade.

I don't think so. Dorion doesn't seem to be keen on getting a one for one deal and also doesn't seem keen on making good decisions, which this would be. Picks and young roster players are more likely to be what they want.

Yzerman also doesn't necessarily have to be this aggressive this early and start leveraging Kucherov. If he does move him it's likely at next years draft to replenish what they moved out in the Karlsson deal, like you mentioned.

 

[Jame]

I don't think so. Dorion doesn't seem to be keen on getting a one for one deal and also doesn't seem keen on making good decisions, which this would be. Picks and young roster players are more likely to be what they want.

Yzerman also doesn't necessarily have to be this aggressive this early and start leveraging Kucherov. If he does move him it's likely at next years draft to replenish what they moved out in the Karlsson deal, like you mentioned.

Why would you presume to know anything about what Dorion is keen on?

The point of doing a Kucherov/Karlsson swap is that for Ottawa they get a player that they can flip for similar picks/prospects, while getting the protection that his RFA affords (no rush to trade)..... while Tampa clears current cap space to take on Karlsson, knowing there's almost no way they could re-sign Karlsson AND Kucherov.... so they keep their depth and prospects and shift an elite talent from wing to the blueline..... and All of the contracts they would consider moving to make room for Karlsson have NTCs anyways, and No one is waiving to go to Ottawa.

Again... I'm just speculating... but it makes a decent amount of sense, given the state of their cap and the restrictions of their NTCs

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kucherov/Karlsson is the basis for the trade.

Has their ruthless leveraging toxified that relationship that much? He’s their best forward by an order of magnitude.

 

[Jame]

Has their ruthless leveraging toxified that relationship that much? He’s their best forward by an order of magnitude.

There was a lot of "noise" after their playoff collapse...

He's their best forward... the "order of magnitude" hyperbole isn't required.

 

[Zip15]

Folin to the Flyers.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Folin would have been a solid add.

 

[joshjull]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kucherov/Karlsson is the basis for the trade.

Wow. Have the bridges been burned that badly?

 

[Baccus]

Was there more chatter then the Friedman (I think) report that was basically they used the RFA leverage on him for the last contract and now he'll use his against them (ie get paid market value)?

 

[joshjull]

Was there more chatter then the Friedman (I think) report that was basically they used the CBA leverage on him for the last contract and now he'll use his against them (ie get paid market value)?

I do remember that but I don't remember who reported it.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

If Tampa signs Karlsson to the expected $11M deal, they'll only have $13M (plus whatever they trade away), to sign 6 players (+), including Point & Kurcherov.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Ottawa: We got this
Montreal: Teins ma biere

 

[Der Jaeger]

Agree with @Jame. Has to be an all-in year for TB. Toronto up-gunned. Time for them to.

 

[explore]

Ottawa: We got this
Montreal: Teins ma biere

 

[Sabre the Win]

Tiers in the division if Tampa gets Karlsson.

Toronto
Tampa

Boston
Florida

Sabres
Montreal
Detroit

Ottawa

It's gonna be a rough time for Buffalo, we really need kids to work out.

 

[Gabrielor]

Still no words on Enstrom?

 

[Gabrielor]

If Tampa gets karlsson, I’d put them ahead of toronto

 

[vcv]

Can't wait for Toronto and Tampa to go all-in only to fall to Washington, future BACK2BACK CHAMPS.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Tiers in the division if Tampa gets Karlsson.

Toronto
Tampa

Boston
Florida

Sabres
Montreal

Ottawa

It's gonna be a rough time for Buffalo, we really need kids to work out.

Does Detroit just fold their franchise after all these years?

 

[Sabre the Win]

Does Detroit just fold their franchise after all these years?

Hahaha I completely forgot about them coming into the division.

 

[Jame]

Wow. Have the bridges been burned that badly?

Honestly, their franchise is in a great position... so their media and fans don't overreact the way ours have... but there are certainly issues.

 

[vcv]

Does Detroit just fold their franchise after all these years?

The Dead Wings are back, baby.

 

[sabrebuild]

It's a "we tried to sign him guys" offer so they can say it to the fan base when he gets traded to Dallas for Honka Lindell and some picks

That’s the problem, a 10 a year deal is not a we tried to sign him dollar figure. It’s a lowball offer by any metric of the market.

 

[joshjull]