Around the NHL #15 - Ovie is Not a Choker Thread

[Calculon]

Edit: 8 yrs x 12.5M per

 

[Mobiandi]

8x12.5

 

[Dertell]

Good for him. He's the best player in the league and someone's bound to get even more before this deal's over.

 

[Lunatik]

8x12.5

My 8x12 guess was pretty bang on

 

[Mr Snrub]

My 8x12 guess was pretty bang on

Actually, you were 4 million off

 

[Skobel24]

Actually, you were 4 million off

Listen here you little ****

 

[Lunatik]

Sounds like the Hurricanes have been sold for $500 million and will remain in Carolina.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Sounds like the Hurricanes have been sold for $500 million and will remain in Carolina.

North Carolina*

 

[FlamerForLife]

Palat signed a 5 year $5.3M AAV extension with the Bolts, is that a good comparable to Backlund or not?

 

[Volica]

Palat signed a 5 year $5.3M AAV extension with the Bolts, is that a good comparable to Backlund or not?

5x5 would be very fair for Backlund.
Frans Nielson and Palat would be two contracts I'd point to if I was Tre.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Palat signed a 5 year $5.3M AAV extension with the Bolts, is that a good comparable to Backlund or not?

I think it's a good comparable in a lot of ways. Probably also helps us given that Palat is a bit of a bigger deal and more offensively inclined than Backlund and (supposedly) warrants a bigger paycheque. Gives Tre leverage to be able to say we're not paying him over 5 million.

I think the Backlund contract ends up being 4.5AAV, his play this next season probably determines whether they get him for four or for five years.

 

[Calculon]

Not sure why a winger like Palat would be comparable for a centre like Backlund.

Better comparisons would be Frans Nielsen (6yrs x 5.25M) and Valtteri Filppula (5yrs x 5M).

But when a guy like Brandon Sutter can get 4.375M x 5yrs, the notion of Backlund getting less than 5M per seems like a pipe dream.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I think the thing that is gonna hurt us most with Backlund is him saying am I not worth Monahan, Gaudreau or Gio money?

 

[Yung Rotini]

I think the thing that is gonna hurt us most with Backlund is him saying am I not worth Monahan, Gaudreau or Gio money?

At this current point he is not.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

At this current point he is not.

Arguably he's our best forward overall, so I think that will be his argument.

Depends on his play this season honestly. I don't want to pay him more than 5.5 if we can get away with it.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I think 5.5 x 5 is fair for both sides. He could get more in FA.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

I think the thing that is gonna hurt us most with Backlund is him saying am I not worth Monahan, Gaudreau or Gio money?

Depends how it's argued. Historically, players got paid based on their offensive production first, and everything else second. That may be changing with the inclusion of analytics, but I doubt anything will ever truly supplant goals and assists as the most significant factor in valuation of a skater (forwards in particular).

Also, based on guys like Palat, who have similar (if not quite as extensive) defensive reputations with greater offensive production, I'd say around 5 is pretty fair/reasonable. Hopefully he does give a bit of a discount and we see him come in the 4-4.5 million range, though.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Arguably he's our best forward overall, so I think that will be his argument.

Depends on what you mean by "best". He doesn't have the highest highs on our roster, but he's definitely the most consistent by a long shot.

 

[Lunatik]

Depends on what you mean by "best". He doesn't have the highest highs on our roster, but he's definitely the most consistent by a long shot.

you also can't ignore than Gaudreau and Monahan received money for their potential, Backlund will not.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Just saw the Parayko extension. No doubt that guy ends up a 50pt #1 D, big steal for St Louis.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Parayko is ridiculous.

 

[Lunatik]

Parayko is ridiculous.

He's a stud through and through. Not shocking his deal is comparable to Hamilton's. Solid for both sides.

 

[Skobel24]

Dumoulin asking for 4.35 million. Pens offering 1.95 million.

Pittsburgh is lowballing him hard.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Dumoulin asking for 4.35 million. Pens offering 1.95 million.

Pittsburgh is lowballing him hard.

Kulak for Dumo?

 

[Lunatik]

Dumoulin asking for 4.35 million. Pens offering 1.95 million.

Pittsburgh is lowballing him hard.

is that arbitration asks? because arbitration is a different beast and the team always goes way low and the player way high, which is why the arbitrator almost always chooses something in the middle or why they get settled first.