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[norrisnick]

Travis Yost: Vancouver Canucks hope Filip Hronek’s breakout season a sign of things to come | TSN

Did the Vancouver Canucks acquire a hidden gem buried on a team that couldn’t provide him adequate support, or was Filip Hronek additive to Detroit’s struggles at times? It’s the multi-million-dollar question, to be blunt.

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Dearest Pot,

Consider thyself stirred.

I mean, we didn't trade them Maatta. Olli is the Hronek-Whisperer.

 

[DoMakc]

I mean, we didn't trade them Maatta. Olli is the Hronek-Whisperer.

They still have their 1st round picks in the couple years, i would mind helping them out here

 

[norrisnick]

Ottawa Senators sign defenceman Jake Sanderson to eight-year contract extension | Ottawa Senators

OTTAWA – The Ottawa Senatorsannounced today that the team has signed defenceman Jake Sanderson to an eight-year, $64.4M contract extension. The contract has an average annual value of $8.050 million and includes the following breakdown: $8.050M in 2024-25, $8.050M in 2025-26, $8.050M in 2026-27...

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So that makes Mo, what? $10M? But isn't Dahlin signing $10.5M? in the near future? Shit is wild right now...

 

[Oddbob]

Ottawa Senators sign defenceman Jake Sanderson to eight-year contract extension | Ottawa Senators

OTTAWA – The Ottawa Senatorsannounced today that the team has signed defenceman Jake Sanderson to an eight-year, $64.4M contract extension. The contract has an average annual value of $8.050 million and includes the following breakdown: $8.050M in 2024-25, $8.050M in 2025-26, $8.050M in 2026-27...

www.nhl.com

So that makes Mo, what? $10M? But isn't Dahlin signing $10.5M? in the near future? Shit is wild right now...

What on earth? One season and you get 8 mil? I miss the days when players had to have 2-3 really good seasons in a row to even be in the ballpark of a great contract.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Ottawa Senators sign defenceman Jake Sanderson to eight-year contract extension | Ottawa Senators

OTTAWA – The Ottawa Senatorsannounced today that the team has signed defenceman Jake Sanderson to an eight-year, $64.4M contract extension. The contract has an average annual value of $8.050 million and includes the following breakdown: $8.050M in 2024-25, $8.050M in 2025-26, $8.050M in 2026-27...

www.nhl.com

So that makes Mo, what? $10M? But isn't Dahlin signing $10.5M? in the near future? Shit is wild right now...

Was really hoping the lower end of 8 for Mo but this makes it a near certainty that won’t happen. Looking like 8.75-9. Have a hard time seeing Stevie Y go higher than Larkin even tho Mo’s market value should be higher

 

[Oddbob]

Was really hoping the lower end of 8 for Mo but this makes it a near certainty that won’t happen. Looking like 8.75-9. Have a hard time seeing Stevie Y go higher than Larkin even tho Mo’s market value should be higher

I think Steve is a better negotiator than Dorion, so hopefully that plays a part.

 

[Gniwder]

Ottawa Senators sign defenceman Jake Sanderson to eight-year contract extension | Ottawa Senators

OTTAWA – The Ottawa Senatorsannounced today that the team has signed defenceman Jake Sanderson to an eight-year, $64.4M contract extension. The contract has an average annual value of $8.050 million and includes the following breakdown: $8.050M in 2024-25, $8.050M in 2025-26, $8.050M in 2026-27...

www.nhl.com

So that makes Mo, what? $10M? But isn't Dahlin signing $10.5M? in the near future? Shit is wild right now...

It's the Senators, they pay everyone $8M, including Chabot and Norris.

Agent: We want $7M....
Dorion: You'll take $8M and that's my final offer.

 

[saska sault]

80 games gets 8 million. Lots of contracts go by potential now but I don't personally like going that route unless I'm playing video games where potential is a almost a certainty to be reached. If you have a McDavid sure. It's similar to proposing to your high school sweet heart because everything is wonderful.

 

[ricky0034]

80 games gets 8 million. Lots of contracts go by potential now but I don't personally like going that route unless I'm playing video games where potential is a almost a certainty to be reached. If you have a McDavid sure. It's similar to proposing to your high school sweet heart because everything is wonderful.

the thing is when everyone else is paying by potential you have to too in a cap world otherwise you'll be at a big disadvantage years down the line when other teams are saving millions on their best players and you have to pay market rate

and if your best players don't pan out you aren't gonna be a good team anyways

 

[Bench]

the thing is when everyone else is paying by potential you have to too in a cap world otherwise you'll be at a big disadvantage years down the line when other teams are saving millions on their best players and you have to pay market rate

and if your best players don't pan out you aren't gonna be a good team anyways

I think it's bad for the sport to set a standard where you must give these young players lifetime wealth before their 2nd season.

I'm all for the players getting their bag. Go for it.

But I mean as a fan of the NHL, these contracts could hurt the product on the ice because they are guaranteed for the duration. Having albatross contracts never makes for a better product.

 

[Debrincat93]

if Sanderson gets 8m, i guess Seider's camp should aim for 8.5+

FML.

 

[ricky0034]

I think it's bad for the sport to set a standard where you must give these young players lifetime wealth before their 2nd season.

I'm all for the players getting their bag. Go for it.

But I mean as a fan of the NHL, these contracts could hurt the product on the ice because they are guaranteed for the duration. Having albatross contracts never makes for a better product.

eh somewhat, a couple counterpoints do come to mind on that though

that money has to come from somewhere especially with a cap, teams paying their young guys sooner means less money for throwing around stupid deals to free agents that are probably more likely to be albatrosses down the line anyways

this is just pure speculation on my part with nothing but gut feelings to back it up but I feel like teams being forced to pay promising youngsters sooner means less spinning their wheels on settling on a core to build around once they do get a couple pieces worth paying which probably leads to less tanking( in an aggregate sense across the league

so....mixed feelings I guess you could say

anyways my original post wasn't really a value judgment so much as a "other people are doing it so you're kinda forced into doing it too as a GM if you want to compete long-term whether you like it or not"

 

[JediOrderPizza]

I think while the Tkachuk, Stutzle, Hughes, Norris, Thompson, Cozens and Sanderson contracts are not bad. I also would be wary about having 5-6 of them on a team that doesn't make the playoffs.

I think a lot of other teams including Ottawa would've been like oh yeah 8 years for Debrincat no problem! But it feels like Yzerman doesn't wanna have that happen to the Wings only for us to be a bubble team. There's an eject button in 4-5 years if our draft picks don't pan out and we need to reset the clock.

So it'll be interesting to see where the Sens land, do they push one year like New Jersey or just float in bubble space for all eternity.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

I would be thrilled to get Mo to sign an 8 year deal with the first digit being an 8. The back 2/3 of that contract will be a total steal.

Mo is a better player than Sanderson and has proven more, his camp should be shooting for 9.5+. But his camp is run by someone I could never trust, and I am sure many in Red Wings management wants nothing to do with. This worries me all the time.

 

[jkutswings]

if Sanderson gets 8m, i guess Seider's camp should aim for 8.5+

FML.

I guess I don't see the issue. Mo shows every indication of being a player that deserves top money as he enters his prime, and Yzerman shows every indication of being a shrewd negotiator that still ultimately gets things done. (With plenty of long term cap flexibility at the moment.)

Even if Seider ends up with 8x$9M, I don't think it scuttles anything.

 

[ricky0034]

I would be thrilled to get Mo to sign an 8 year deal with the first digit being an 8. The back 2/3 of that contract will be a total steal.

Mo is a better player than Sanderson and has proven more, his camp should be shooting for 9.5+. But his camp is run by someone I could never trust, and I am sure many in Red Wings management wants nothing to do with. This worries me all the time.

I really doubt the Wings management are losing much sleep over what an agent currently managing $300m worth of contracts across the league did as a player 25 years ago

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

I refuse to believe our asst GM and Mo's agent are going to act like nothing happened between the two of them.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

if Sanderson gets 8m, i guess Seider's camp should aim for 8.5+

FML.

We were already expecting that. Seider is better than Sanderson so I'm totally fine with Seider getting 8.5 to 9.0.

 

[redwings8831]

 

[ricky0034]

the timing of this coming a couple months after the death of Wirtz is a bit interesting and makes me wonder if there was some bad blood preventing it from that end like there is here with Fedorov

just interesting seeing some possible drama i've never really thought about before

 

[jkutswings]

the timing of this coming a couple months after the death of Wirtz is a bit interesting and makes me wonder if there was some bad blood preventing it from that end like there is here with Fedorov

just interesting seeing some possible drama i've never really thought about before

Imagine if they retire Chelios' number against the Wings...and Kane scores the game winning goal.

 

[Gniwder]

80 games gets 8 million. Lots of contracts go by potential now but I don't personally like going that route unless I'm playing video games where potential is a almost a certainty to be reached. If you have a McDavid sure. It's similar to proposing to your high school sweet heart because everything is wonderful.

Careful.... a few people laughed at Tage's contract. doesn't seem so stupid now. Dorion watches Sanderson more than we do.

(That being said, I don't like that contract

But I mean as a fan of the NHL, these contracts could hurt the product on the ice because they are guaranteed for the duration. Having albatross contracts never makes for a better product.

Net zero sum game. The best players in the world will be playing in the NHL regardless. They're not gonna go sling burgers at McDonalds because Dorion capped out. Where else would players go? There's such a huge discrepancy in pay between the NHL and any other league, NHL league min is higher than SHL's highest paid player.

The contract could hurt Ottawa if Dorion's assessment of Sanderson is wrong, but who cares.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

the timing of this coming a couple months after the death of Wirtz is a bit interesting and makes me wonder if there was some bad blood preventing it from that end like there is here with Fedorov

just interesting seeing some possible drama i've never really thought about before

The blackhawks fans hatred towards Chelios has always been stupid. He got traded by a rotten owner who was never going to pay near what he was worth.

It’s not like protected a sexual abuser for over a decade or anything.

 

[FMichael]