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[andora]

How tf did Calgary not get a first for Tanev?? And 75% retained too

What a steal by the Stars

Its rediculous other teams couldnt figure their shit out to beat this

 

[StreetHawk]

Its rediculous other teams couldnt figure their shit out to beat this

Kind of what it comes down to. Tanev had. A 10 team ntc so 21 teams he can moved to. Say theirs is 6-8 seriously interested teams and those other 6 or so opted not to push more than a 2nd and former 2nd rounder and a conditional pick to secure Tanev???

 

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Around the League Thread | Marching to the Trade Deadline

Lots has been said about Edwards and no ill will meant with this but it made me laugh

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Best part is this trade felt so obvious that I started to convince myself he wouldn’t do it.

 

[The Optimist]

I guess it explains the rumours that Tanev was almost a part of the Lindholm trade given the low price tag.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

How tf did Calgary not get a first for Tanev?? And 75% retained too

What a steal by the Stars

Yeah.

I do not know who Grushnikov is but this seems like an absolute steal by Dallas.

 

[VanJack]

I think a lot of Canuck fans were caught up in the Tanev hoopla, based on his last couple of years in Vancouver playing with Quinn Hughes. But that was 'then', this is 'now'.

Tanev isn't 29 or 30 any more, he's 34, and coming off an injury-riddled three years in a Flames uniform. He's still valuable playoff insurance......but not at the expense of a first round draft pick.

And I'd be surprised if he re-ups in Dallas, unless they go on an extended march all the way to the Cup Final. I think Conroy and the Flames got what they could. If they'd really valued Tanev, they'd have made an effort to sign him to an extension.

I'm sure he would have been willing to sign a 'team-friendly' deal to stay in Cowtown. But from all reports, he wasn't given the chance.

 

[theguardianII]

I'm sure he would have been willing to sign a 'team-friendly' deal to stay in Cowtown. But from all reports, he wasn't given the chance.

The TDL isn't here yet.
IMO they put in a really big effort if one of their goalies is traded.
The best backup is a stout defence, they can make a decent goalie look really good.

He might not need to make a team friendly deal either. The going rate for 34/35 year olds isn't that high or long.

What made him so respected in the room in Vancouver is the same in Calgary.

Apparently I totally missed a day. Trades trades trades.

 

[tantalum]

No trade list or not that is a return flames fans should be very disappointed with. No high pick. No top prospect. Quite honestly it looks like a whole lot of nothing. Very strange to pull the trigger on that offering IMO.

 

[theguardianII]

No trade list or not that is a return flames fans should be very disappointed with. No high pick. No top prospect. Quite honestly it looks like a whole lot of nothing. Very strange to pull the trigger on that offering IMO.

It does position the Flames to be the "third" in a trade. Taking on some cap for picks/prospects to facilitate a bigger trades for some other teams.

Dallas sure loaded up but are now capped out. 250K left.

A bold trade for the Canucks for now and the future would be for Crouse. The team could use a big winger that can skate.

 

[John Belushi]

Tanev isn't 29 or 30 any more, he's 34, and coming off an injury-riddled three years in a Flames uniform.

Pardon? First off, this is his fourth year in Calgary.

Secondly, he's missed 19 games total in these four seasons including 2 fully healthy years.

Reading your takes from the sidelines the last while I'm not certain if you're a bot or a real human with shoddy memory but either way you need to brush up on your data-scraping.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Pardon? First off, this is his fourth year in Calgary.

Secondly, he's missed 19 games total in these four seasons including 2 fully healthy years.

Reading your takes from the sidelines the last while I'm not certain if you're a bot or a real human with shoddy memory but either way you need to brush up on your data-scraping.

I counted 46 games since he joined the Flames.

Edit Yeah did not realize the shortened season so it’s 20 games.

 

[andora]

I counted 46 games since he joined the Flames.

Just off memory that sounds wrong - his first year was the shortened season

 

[bossram]

Just off memory that sounds wrong - his first year was the shortened season

Correct. It's less than 20 games he missed total with CGY.

Its rediculous other teams couldnt figure their shit out to beat this

Yep. Hard to believe no one beat that offer on Tanev.

No one offered a 1st? And at 50% retention on the CGY side?

I don't get what Conroy's been holding out for if that's the ultimate return.

 

[JT Milker]

Pardon? First off, this is his fourth year in Calgary.

Secondly, he's missed 19 games total in these four seasons including 2 fully healthy years.

Reading your takes from the sidelines the last while I'm not certain if you're a bot or a real human with shoddy memory but either way you need to brush up on your data-scraping.

VanJack could legitimately be AI.

 

[valkynax]

I think a lot of Canuck fans were caught up in the Tanev hoopla, based on his last couple of years in Vancouver playing with Quinn Hughes. But that was 'then', this is 'now'.

Tanev isn't 29 or 30 any more, he's 34, and coming off an injury-riddled three years in a Flames uniform. He's still valuable playoff insurance......but not at the expense of a first round draft pick.

And I'd be surprised if he re-ups in Dallas, unless they go on an extended march all the way to the Cup Final. I think Conroy and the Flames got what they could. If they'd really valued Tanev, they'd have made an effort to sign him to an extension.

I'm sure he would have been willing to sign a 'team-friendly' deal to stay in Cowtown. But from all reports, he wasn't given the chance.

I'm OK with not giving up a 1st rounder. But at the same time I think we need to consider the intangibles - Tanev is a highly respected figure here in Orca town, is a fearless warrior on ice, and can provide valuable leadership for the younger players. And by that I mean real leadership, not Le3D@rsheEp from bums like Brandon balls of steel Sutter and Jay f***ing Beagle.

If Tanev is not extended, I'm really hoping that he'd considered returning to us on UFA.

 

[krutovsdonut]

I'm just so glad Tanev didn't go to Edmonton. It would break my heart seeing him in an Oilers jersey.

especially that brown pants clown suit.

 

[krutovsdonut]

How tf did Calgary not get a first for Tanev?? And 75% retained too

What a steal by the Stars

from weekes yesterday it sounds like there are hard feelings with treliving so he wasn't going to toronto without a premium, and after two trades of roster players to the canucks this year a third would have been pretty bad optics for a team that is not rebulding so, again, another premium.

plus i think conroy had to move tanev so he could focus on hanifin and marky.

 

[andora]

Correct. It's less than 20 games he missed total with CGY.


Yep. Hard to believe no one beat that offer on Tanev.

No one offered a 1st? And at 50% retention on the CGY side?

I don't get what Conroy's been holding out for if that's the ultimate return.

Ty on the tanev gp.. yeah i figured

And yeah.. i mean ..yeah on this trade package i just dont get it. I get maybe the leaf treliving thing and yet another canuck trade but there are several legit teams that could have beat this

from weekes yesterday it sounds like there are hard feelings with treliving so he wasn't going to toronto without a premium, and after two trades of roster players to the canucks this year a third would have been pretty bad optics for a team that is not rebulding so, again, another premium.

plus i think conroy had to move tanev so he could focus on hanifin and marky.

If he gave in on this one to 'focus' on the other two woof

Either overwhelmed or impatient

 

[Ernie]

No trade list or not that is a return flames fans should be very disappointed with. No high pick. No top prospect. Quite honestly it looks like a whole lot of nothing. Very strange to pull the trigger on that offering IMO.

I think Tavares is a good comparable, I wouldn't say Pettersson is a much better player than he was (16th in overall scoring in 2018, Pettersson is currently 10th). The cap has not gone up much since Tavares signed due to the pandemic.

 

[DarrenX]

We couldn't beat that offer for Tanev?

 

[tantalum]

I think Tavares is a good comparable, I wouldn't say Pettersson is a much better player than he was (16th in overall scoring in 2018, Pettersson is currently 10th). The cap has not gone up much since Tavares signed due to the pandemic.

Not sure why this was a reply to my Tanev post but....

Cap has gone up ~10% since Tavares signed. He signed for $11 mil but his best season was 86 points. Pettersson will likely have back-to-back 100 point seasons and is a few years younger than Tavares was.

 

[Ernie]

Not sure why this was a reply to my Tanev post but....

Cap has gone up ~10% since Tavares signed. He signed for $11 mil but his best season was 86 points. Pettersson will likely have back-to-back 100 point seasons and is a few years younger than Tavares was.

Must have screwed up on the multiquote thing.

Overall scoring has gone up in the league since Tavares signed, particularly amongst elite players, so it's more reasonable to compare how they stack up against their peers.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Guaranteed the Canucks and Oilers had a higher asking price being in the division.

But the Leafs dropped the ball big time.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Either overwhelmed or impatient

there were four buyers rumoured for tanev. two of them are division rivals, and one employs their old gm. if calgary doesn't really want to deal with any of them then they have only one buyer unless the other guys offer a premium. so you give it some time for that toe happen, make a last call, then strike a deal with dallas. don't forget the hamhuis lesson of what can happen if you spend too much time and effort trying to squeeze the last dollar out of dallas for an aging top 4 dman at the tdl.

 

[MS]

Guaranteed the Canucks and Oilers had a higher asking price being in the division.

But the Leafs dropped the ball big time.

It sounds like there is a large amount of enmity toward Treliving in Calgary and a reluctance to deal with him.