Around the League Part 9: The Post-Tavareslyptic Hellscape

[dogbazinho]

Hanifin's and Lindholm's contracts aren't so unreasonable as to force them to be traded. I liked the trade at the time but I'm worried about how cheap our ownership seems to be.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I really just don't think they wanted to hitch their wagon to those guys for those prices and especially term. I'm sure we'll see plenty of money shelled out to Aho and probably TT at a minimum.

And while they aren't unreasonable, I can see not wanting to pony up for Lindholm and his inconsistencies at that point in his development. And Hanifin has done nothing to deserve that contract at this point. It may turn out to be a good bet, but it's certainly a gamble based on what he's shown at this point. I think a bridge would have been better, but I guess you always run the risk of a Subban situation.

 

[NotOpie]

Hanifin's and Lindholm's contracts aren't so unreasonable as to force them to be traded. I liked the trade at the time but I'm worried about how cheap our ownership seems to be.

As was said, I don't think this had anywhere near as much to do with the contract size as it did with a) getting the guy(s) we wanted and b) changing up the locker room make up.

 

[AD Skinner]

I look at it like this: instead of paying that money to hanifin the canes will give it to Hamilton plus a little extra. Hamilton already is the player hanifin hopes to become- is the difference in their play worth ~.75 million dollars? I'd say so. Even if they keep Hamilton around for way less time.

 

[Dishface]

I look at it like this: instead of paying that money to hanifin the canes will give it to Hamilton plus a little extra. Hamilton already is the player hanifin hopes to become- is the difference in their play worth ~.75 million dollars? I'd say so. Even if they keep Hamilton around for way less time.

My thoughts exactly. Those two contracts are reasonable, but they aren't worth that money in a canes uniform. I'd rather put that money on Hamilton and try to see how Ferland does then give him a raise.

 

[NotOpie]

I do hope Ferland works out, but if Hamilton plays like he has the past few years and if we can sign Fox, I'm less concerned about whether we can resign him or not. That's not to say I don't want to re-up him if he has a good season....I'm just saying I'm happy if Hamilton and Fox end up in our sweater.

 

[cptjeff]

I really just don't think they wanted to hitch their wagon to those guys for those prices and especially term. I'm sure we'll see plenty of money shelled out to Aho and probably TT at a minimum.

And while they aren't unreasonable, I can see not wanting to pony up for Lindholm and his inconsistencies at that point in his development. And Hanifin has done nothing to deserve that contract at this point. It may turn out to be a good bet, but it's certainly a gamble based on what he's shown at this point. I think a bridge would have been better, but I guess you always run the risk of a Subban situation.

I think Hanifin is more than I'd want to pay, but it's in at least in the ballpark. Lindholm's contract, however, was pretty significantly more than I think he's worth. Lindholm is not gonna develop significantly at this point. He is what he is- a mediocre secondary scoring option without the emotional drive to take control of play and without much to recommend him in other aspects of the game. He has offensive skill, and that's very clear- in bursts. But he's never had the fire he needs to actually turn that skill into consistent results, and he's never played a physically intimidating game or had a defensive game that's been anything better than average.

Hanifin does have the fire and the physical tools to be an elite player, he just needs the hockey sense. Will that come? Maybe. That contract is a gamble for sure. But worse gambles have been made.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

I look at it like this: instead of paying that money to hanifin the canes will give it to Hamilton plus a little extra. Hamilton already is the player hanifin hopes to become- is the difference in their play worth ~.75 million dollars? I'd say so. Even if they keep Hamilton around for way less time.

Which is true for right now. My worry is in 3 years time. What's the salary difference going to be then, or will Hamilton even be here. I can't disregard that.

 

[HisIceness]

I'm fine with moving on from Hanifin at that price. All in all the kid was pretty disappointing here given where he was drafted and the hype surrounding him. Wish him the best in Calgary (not against us).

Ditto Lindholm for that matter.

 

[AD Skinner]

Which is true for right now. My worry is in 3 years time. What's the salary difference going to be then, or will Hamilton even be here. I can't disregard that.

That's true but there's no guarantee that hanifin ever becomes any more than he is now. I'm not in the room with any of these guys but they must have been ok with the risk of Hamilton moving on in 3 years against the risk of hanifin developing beyond a sheltered #4 in that time frame

 

[Chrispy]

I look at it like this: instead of paying that money to hanifin the canes will give it to Hamilton plus a little extra. Hamilton already is the player hanifin hopes to become- is the difference in their play worth ~.75 million dollars? I'd say so. Even if they keep Hamilton around for way less time.

I take it a step further: as I said in another thread it’s a reasonable contract for Hanifins potential. But in terms of current value I see 5 contracts on the canes blue line I like better for the next season (and 19–20). Hanifin is signed longer term than most but is also less proven than any of those 5.

That is less about Hanifin’s market value and more about the Canes surplus on the blue line.

 

[Breakdowns]

interesting

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Both team and player seem outraged. Schmidt’s statement is some kind of pissed off at the suspension.

 

[Unsustainable]

Both team and player seem outraged. Schmidt’s statement is some kind of pissed off at the suspension.

Sounds a lot like the Jon Jones situation where he took tainted boner pills.

 

[Breakdowns]

Wheeler just got paid, that contract is going to hurt in the latter years

 

[Lempo]

Wheeler just got paid, that contract is going to hurt in the latter years

Jets' best player 2017-18.

 

[Breakdowns]

Jets' best player 2017-18.

But will he be anywhere near that after 5 years tho?

 

[Lempo]

But will he be anywhere near that after 5 years tho?

With $6.125M-making Mark Scheifele with still a year on his current contract left and 25-y.o. Patrik Laine... chances are that he isn't.

 

[MinJaBen]

Tell us something we don't know....

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Sounds a lot like the Jon Jones situation where he took tainted ***** pills.

Nah, Jones has never done anything wrong. Just has really bad luck

Seriously, though, I love that a guy whose nickname is “Bones” used the dick pills excuse. Can’t help but hate the guy - he remains super preachy despite being a total pos.

 

[geehaad]

Brandon Saad #5, eh.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Brandon Saad #5, eh.

Yeah, that’s a weird guy to pick on.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

it is saad that they would pick on brandon like that

hue hue hue

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I'm a bit surprised that NHL 100 player Toews didn't get the nod there, but Saad fits. Playing for a high profile team, he scored less than half of the points than the player he was traded straight up for.

 

[GoldiFox]

Yeah, that’s a weird guy to pick on.

Has less to do with how average Saad is and more to do with the Panarin that Chicago gave up to get the band back together (which failed miserably).

More interesting that the only two players listed are two guys whose careers have been severely overrated due to their ties to a dynasty Blackhawks team.