Around the League Part 8: Welcome to the league Vegas, and Duchene discussion

[bleedgreen]

After Hunwick and before they sign JJ can JR trade another LD?

We shall see.

Pens have been my assumed trade location for Skinner since the draft.

Ps. I could see PDG being an add in from us. JR wants depth and balance for the bottom six, read an interview the other day.

 

[GoldiFox]

Guy who Sabres fans say has legit sources. Says July 1 bonus may be holdup.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Skinner and Faulk to Pit for 2x1rd, LD, F/G - I fear.

So, Washington won't trade a stinking goalie to us within the division, but we'll trade a 30 goal winger and 15 goal D man in the division so they can straight up drop bombs on us all year long, huh?

f*** that. I guess Dundon figures the Pens will beat us every time anyway so why not just add to the misery. They better get something besides picks for those two.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Guy who Sabres fans say has legit sources. Says July 1 bonus may be holdup.

This is interesting because if the bonus is the hold up we could definitely be in on it, but who knows if this guy is legit or not.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I just want to say: I find it awesome and hilarious that after Pens fans were all talking a couple years ago about how Sheary was a legit first line guy, not just a product of Crosby, and would be worth a lot in a trade...he gets added to a cap dump deal for a 3rd/4th round pick!!

Also, I'm not nearly sold enough on Jarry to send Skinner that way...would rather see how Skinner does with a new coach/culture in his last year and flip him if needed at deadline (or we're in the playoffs and he's exactly what we'd be trying to trade for and acquire at that time if we trade him now).

 

[geehaad]

Isn't the point of a trade to make your own team better? If CAR is better off by whatever they receive in trade for Skinner, then they should be that much closer to beating PIT (and every other team), regardless of Skinner's involvement.

 

[Lempo]

There's also the off chance that a year of Skinner is worth more than what people are willing to give for a year of Skinner + year's worth of exclusive negotiation time. A year of him isn't of zero value.

I think it's silly to think that getting anything for Skinner is a deal than needs to be taken.

 

[What the Faulk]

There's also the off chance that a year of Skinner is worth more than what people are willing to give for a year of Skinner + year's worth of exclusive negotiation time. A year of him isn't of zero value.

I think it's silly to think that getting anything for Skinner is a deal than needs to be taken.

The worst case (and since this is the Canes, the most likely) scenario is that they keep him and are again on the bubble around the deadline. They need to be firmly in or out so they can properly evaluate what to do with Skinner. My preferences prior to the season:

2-3 year extension for < 7M (no idea what he's looking for or what kind of term, but that's my top offer)
Keeping him without an extension and rolling the dice
Trading him for now help
Trading him for futures
Trading him to trade him

 

[Chrispy]

The worst case (and since this is the Canes, the most likely) scenario is that they keep him and are again on the bubble around the deadline. They need to be firmly in or out so they can properly evaluate what to do with Skinner. My preferences prior to the season:

2-3 year extension for < 7M (no idea what he's looking for or what kind of term, but that's my top offer)
Keeping him without an extension and rolling the dice
Trading him for now help
Trading him for futures
Trading him to trade him

Well put, although I think 2 and 3 can easily flip based on what the "now help" is.
1 is almost impossible at this point. They would have to overpay per year to get Skinner to sign a short-term deal.

 

[AD Skinner]

If "now help" isn't a legit goalie or scorer, just take the chance he walks. Trading him away for pennies on the dollar just says we're giving up on the season before it even starts, AGAIN, like going to rex express care

 

[What the Faulk]

If "now help" isn't a legit goalie or scorer, just take the chance he walks. Trading him away for pennies on the dollar just says we're giving up on the season before it even starts, AGAIN, like going to rex express care

This is why I want to keep him to start the year. More than anything, I just want to cheer for a winning team again. Skinner is likely going to be the best player in any deal. Moving him now probably hurts them in the short term. If they make the playoffs, maybe both sides are more inclined to work out an extension (they money will almost certainly be there).

 

[Lempo]

We haven't much noted that they can extend Skinner for 8 years in three days.

 

[Stickpucker]

Re ROR Waddell said expect another deal in 7 to 10 days.

I would give Pesce, Gauthier, and Rask for ROR.

 

[Brock Anton]

Pesce? No chance.

IMO any chance for a ROR deal went out the window when Hanifin was traded.

 

[SlavinAway]

Re ROR Waddell said expect another deal in 7 to 10 days.

I would give Pesce, Gauthier, and Rask for ROR.

Trading Pesce would be a mistake. I would do Faulk in his place.

 

[DaveG]

I didn't like the idea of Hanifin for ROR straight across, and I REALLY don't like the idea of Pesce + 2 other pieces for ROR. If they're willing to talk Faulk + 2 pieces that's another matter entirely.

 

[Dishface]

Well Jack MF Johnson might be the piece JR shed the salary for. So no Skinner for them.

 

[Svechhammer]

Per the main board, sounds like Jack Johnson has agreed to a 5 year deal with the Pens

Rutherford just can't help himself with the retreads, can he

 

[UNCCHcane]

JR right now:

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

5 years for a guy that couldn't crack Columbus' top 6 D?
Makes sense.

 

[Chrispy]

JMFJ: I didn't sign in Carolina!

JR: I don't care!

 

[Navin R Slavin]

wutwai

 

[What the Faulk]

JR always gets his man, even if it's 13 years later and it takes several job changes for both sides to get it done.

 

[bleedgreen]

There’s still room for Skinner. They have to send some salary back at us maybe. 3.5 isn’t all the money they saved from the trade and they had some to play with before the trade. Signing Oleksiak and Sheahan may be an issue.

 

[bleedgreen]

JJ can still play, and his style has a good chance of being a good fit there.

Jr has always been pretty good at the reclamation defense projects. Can’t argue with Shultz.