Around the League part 4

[voyageur]

Unless Kevyn Adams somehow reunites the Staal family in Buffalo I have no idea what he is doing. I feel bad for Staal if he has to centre Skinner for the whole year, who took a year off after getting paid, and might take another.

Edmunson signs at 3.5 AAV for 4 years. Very moderate pay increase for him, but security, and a guaranteed 2nd pairing role with Petry you would think.

I'd say Edmunson's numbers are better than De Melo's, so that AAV might be in the right range. The 4 year term might be hard for the Jets though.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Unless Kevyn Adams somehow reunites the Staal family in Buffalo I have no idea what he is doing. I feel bad for Staal if he has to centre Skinner for the whole year, who took a year off after getting paid, and might take another.

Edmunson signs at 3.5 AAV for 4 years. Very moderate pay increase for him, but security, and a guaranteed 2nd pairing role with Petry you would think.

I'd say Edmunson's numbers are better than De Melo's, so that AAV might be in the right range. The 4 year term might be hard for the Jets though.

I'd be happy with a 4 year term with DeMelo. I don't see anyone in our pipeline who could surpass him in that amount of time. If we did, I'd be happy - playing DeMelo on your 3rd pair usually means you have good depth.

 

[irunthepeg]

How in the world did Staal end up in Buffalo?? I thought his last contract with the wild was a Thornton-esque keep you around deal

Apparently he was pissed. I think he was thinking he would finish his career there. I saw on Reddit he turned down the opportunity to go to Boston (apparently a 1st + Kuraly) but he told Fenton no (when did Fenton get fired? this may have been last year).

 

[None]

Lowry is as much a rental as Staal is. Both will be pending UFAs.

That was my point, Lowry would've had similar value to Johansson but I doubt anyone would be very happy with Lowry for Staal despite similar circumstances.

 

[Oilpeg]

Minnesota may have had no interest in trading Staal within the division anyway...Don't think people should be upset with Chevy for not getting him.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Not necessarily, but he could only list 10 teams that he wouldn't go to.

If he is listing the 10 his wife is most likely to veto, Buffalo is about as likely to be on the list as Winnipeg is.
This is all very speculative.

There are more obvious reasons why he didn't come here. Like he is 36 YO. He is not the solution to our problem. Like we don't have a comparable player to Johansson to send the other way. Probably more, before we get down the list to 'places his wife would veto'.

 

[Whileee]

If he is listing the 10 his wife is most likely to veto, Buffalo is about as likely to be on the list as Winnipeg is.
This is all very speculative.

There are more obvious reasons why he didn't come here. Like he is 36 YO. He is not the solution to our problem. Like we don't have a comparable player to Johansson to send the other way. Probably more, before we get down the list to 'places his wife would veto'.

Friedman wrote that Staal really didn't want to leave Minnesota, and Buffalo wasn't on his no trade list because he guessed that they were a team that wouldn't want him because they aren't a contender.

 

[Neuf]

Friedman wrote that Staal really didn't want to leave Minnesota, and Buffalo wasn't on his no trade list because he guessed that they were a team that wouldn't want him because they aren't a contender.

This is a common strategy so you don't waste your ten no trades on teams that never would have done it anyway. Crazy to see it happen

 

[None]

Friedman wrote that Staal really didn't want to leave Minnesota, and Buffalo wasn't on his no trade list because he guessed that they were a team that wouldn't want him because they aren't a contender.

I imagine Bill Guerin is going to have trouble convincing players that they don't need a full no-move clause in any future negotiations. Eroding trust like that is slimy as hell.

That said, players probably shouldn't trust their GMs all that much and Staal probably should have had a full NMC considering he already took a discount on that contract.

 

[tbcwpg]

Lebrun in the Athletic said that Buffalo was not on Staal's NTC list because it had playoff teams that would likely be interested in trading for him on it, and he's so comfortable in Minnesota with his family that he wanted to prevent being moved at the deadline. He never imagined Buffalo would trade for him as they were not a playoff team.

That would likely mean Winnipeg was on the list. It's close to Minnesota but it's still a ways away from your family for 8 months.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Friedman wrote that Staal really didn't want to leave Minnesota, and Buffalo wasn't on his no trade list because he guessed that they were a team that wouldn't want him because they aren't a contender.

Maybe they think they can become one. A bit optimistic, I would say. Show Eichel they are trying?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Lebrun in the Athletic said that Buffalo was not on Staal's NTC list because it had playoff teams that would likely be interested in trading for him on it, and he's so comfortable in Minnesota with his family that he wanted to prevent being moved at the deadline. He never imagined Buffalo would trade for him as they were not a playoff team.

That would likely mean Winnipeg was on the list. It's close to Minnesota but it's still a ways away from your family for 8 months.

Well, it's obvious then, isn't it? The Jets want players to leave them off their no-trade lists, just suck so bad that players are lulled into a false sense of security.

Yet another benefit of tanking. Why is this such a hard sell to people?

 

[Duke749]

Friedman wrote that Staal really didn't want to leave Minnesota, and Buffalo wasn't on his no trade list because he guessed that they were a team that wouldn't want him because they aren't a contender.

Lebrun in the Athletic said that Buffalo was not on Staal's NTC list because it had playoff teams that would likely be interested in trading for him on it, and he's so comfortable in Minnesota with his family that he wanted to prevent being moved at the deadline. He never imagined Buffalo would trade for him as they were not a playoff team.

That would likely mean Winnipeg was on the list. It's close to Minnesota but it's still a ways away from your family for 8 months.

Well that really backfired.

 

[tbcwpg]

Well that really backfired.

I'd be surprised if he ever has a relationship with Guerin after this. Guerin's comments sort of say that he made a trade because he didn't want to "do nothing".

 

[Duke749]

I'd be surprised if he ever has a relationship with Guerin after this. Guerin's comments sort of say that he made a trade because he didn't want to "do nothing".

That doesn’t suggest a very intelligent human being...

 

[Gm0ney]

Lebrun in the Athletic said that Buffalo was not on Staal's NTC list because it had playoff teams that would likely be interested in trading for him on it, and he's so comfortable in Minnesota with his family that he wanted to prevent being moved at the deadline. He never imagined Buffalo would trade for him as they were not a playoff team.

That would likely mean Winnipeg was on the list. It's close to Minnesota but it's still a ways away from your family for 8 months.

If he was paying close attention, he'd realize Winnipeg isn't a playoff team either...

But Minnesota isn't going to trade inside the division. That's not allowed as I've heard whenever good players get traded from teams in the Central.

 

[Neuf]

If he was paying close attention, he'd realize Winnipeg isn't a playoff team either...

But Minnesota isn't going to trade inside the division. That's not allowed as I've heard whenever good players get traded from teams in the Central.

Minnesota got Fiala from Nashville...Stastny from Blues to Jets... it happens.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Well, it's obvious then, isn't it? The Jets want players to leave them off their no-trade lists, just suck so bad that players are lulled into a false sense of security.

Yet another benefit of tanking. Why is this such a hard sell to people?

Because you need to lose a lot to tank.

 

[robertocarlos]

Really?! I figured us being close to Thunder Bay would have made us make the list.

Yes. There are at least 3 flights a day.

 

[Whileee]

Classic HF Jets thread. Player with a NTC that obviously would never have allowed a trade to Winnipeg gets traded, followed by pages of comments questioning why the Jets didn't make an effort to acquire him.

 

[surixon]

Classic HF Jets thread. Player with a NTC that obviously would never have allowed a trade to Winnipeg gets traded, followed by pages of comments questioning why the Jets didn't make an effort to acquire him.

Why would we wven want said player anyhow. He doesn't solve any of our issues long term.

 

[PhilJets]

 

[snowkiddin]

Bogosian is a clear weak link on Tampa. Kinda sucks to see how far he's fallen. All those injuries I guess

 

[cbcwpg]

Only in hockey can you hit a guy in the face with your stick and you get an extra 2 minutes because the guy is a bleeder. Getting a nose bleed is not the same as getting cut.

 

[ps241]

Classic HF Jets thread. Player with a NTC that obviously would never have allowed a trade to Winnipeg gets traded, followed by pages of comments questioning why the Jets didn't make an effort to acquire him.

Yea we don’t need a 35 year old one season patch job even if he was available.