Around The League; Offseason

[MarkT]

This makes no sense. If they go 7-3 they loss Holl. If they go 4-4 they now lose McCann.

 

[dahrougem2]

This makes no sense. If they go 7-3 they loss Holl. If they go 4-4 they now lose McCann.

I don't think the Leafs mind losing Holl too much. Either that or Dubas is going to pay Seattle to take Kerfoot from them.

 

[Pokecheque]

This makes no sense. If they go 7-3 they loss Holl. If they go 4-4 they now lose McCann.

Holl isn’t a gigantic loss. They needed to shore up their depth at center. That playoff series definitely showed that, and they finally realized Kerfoot isn’t a legit 3rd line center.

I’m guessing if they really want to keep Holl they try and broker a deal with Seattle to take Kerfy.

 

[MarkT]

I don't think the Leafs mind losing Holl too much. Either that or Dubas is going to pay Seattle to take Kerfoot from them.

To me, that's just poor asset management. If this is the plan, they 100% should have traded Holl themselves. He's 29, signed to 2 years at only 2m, he's 6'4", he plays on arguably Toronto's top pair, and just put up nearly 0.5 points per game. He instantly becomes one of Seattle's top targets for me if he's available. He's basically the perfect guy for them - someone they could happily keep or flip quite easily.

I don't disagree with getting McCann in principle - the Leafs desperately needed forward depth - I just disagree with the asset management aspect. This seems to be an ongoing issue with the Leafs. They focus in on getting the player they want, and worry about the roster implications later.

 

[avsfan09]

When animal control tells you that you need to catch the injured bird in your back yard and put it into a box so they can pick it up:

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When you finally get the bird into the box:

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I found a baby bird once that had fallen from its nest. I figured I'd help the little guy out and get him back up in it. Only took me three throws.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

To me, that's just poor asset management. If this is the plan, they 100% should have traded Holl themselves. He's 29, signed to 2 years at only 2m, he's 6'4", he plays on arguably Toronto's top pair, and just put up nearly 0.5 points per game. He instantly becomes one of Seattle's top targets for me if he's available. He's basically the perfect guy for them - someone they could happily keep or flip quite easily.

I don't disagree with getting McCann in principle - the Leafs desperately needed forward depth - I just disagree with the asset management aspect. This seems to be an ongoing issue with the Leafs. They focus in on getting the player they want, and worry about the roster implications later.

They could still go 4-4 and leave McCann, Kerfoot, and Dermott exposed, essentially paying Hallander and a 7th to make sure they still have a 3C.

 

[Reparlana]

Always thought that Makar would get between $8.5M and $9M x 8 years.

This one doesn't seem like a it's a hard one to get done at all - that's the market value for him and you're locking him up until he's 30.

Pay him he is worth it and will be the entire contract. If not bridge him the cap goes up and pay him more.

 

[Richard88]

To me, that's just poor asset management. If this is the plan, they 100% should have traded Holl themselves. He's 29, signed to 2 years at only 2m, he's 6'4", he plays on arguably Toronto's top pair, and just put up nearly 0.5 points per game. He instantly becomes one of Seattle's top targets for me if he's available. He's basically the perfect guy for them - someone they could happily keep or flip quite easily.

I don't disagree with getting McCann in principle - the Leafs desperately needed forward depth - I just disagree with the asset management aspect. This seems to be an ongoing issue with the Leafs. They focus in on getting the player they want, and worry about the roster implications later.

Could see Sakic pursuing Holl if Seattle decide to flip him. A big RHD with a cheap caphit and experience playing in the top 4.

Toews -- Makar
Girard -- Holl
Byram -- Timmins/EJ

 

[The Merchant]

Nothing but respect for this kid. Takes a tremendous amount of courage to be the first one to come out, especially in the generally uninclusive climate of hockey.

 

[UncleRisto]

Nothing but respect for this kid. Takes a tremendous amount of courage to be the first one to come out, especially in the generally uninclusive climate of hockey.

That attention is going to get him another NHL contract for sure.

 

[dahrougem2]

I play ball hockey against him lol

 

[Newusername]

I play ball hockey against him lol

That’s awesome. 6’5 220, I bet no ones going into his corner haha

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Oof... 6 years and $3.6M?

 

[henchman21]

Oof... 6 years and $3.6M?

Makes sense as Landy is only 1.5m better.

 

[Mr Zappalanche]

Nothing but respect for this kid. Takes a tremendous amount of courage to be the first one to come out, especially in the generally uninclusive climate of hockey.

Those announcements are little bit cringey and narcistic imo. If he wants to be openly gay, people will figure it out without him announcing it .

 

[Pokecheque]

Those announcements are little bit cringey and narcistic imo. If he wants to be openly gay, people will figure it out without him announcing it .

And statements like this are precisely why announcements like this are made in advance.

 

[Mr Zappalanche]

And statements like this are precisely why announcements like this are made in advance.

And statement like this is precisely why my statement about annoucement like that is made.

 

[JWK]

Oof... 6 years and $3.6M?

6 years for Goodrow?

Time for Sakic to rob his ex-teammate via a trade.

 

[Pokecheque]

And statement like this is precisely why my statement about annoucement like that is made.

Yeah, I totally get that. Someday there'll be a day when something like this doesn't bother you so much, but obviously that day ain't today.

 

[AFK]

And statement like this is precisely why my statement about annoucement like that is made.

Maybe in your Croatian utopia homophobia isn't still an issue, but out here, especially in Tennessee, it certainly is. He's making this statement so that, maybe, just maybe, other kids won't have to make similar statements like this in the future. The progress made is America since the 90's is encouraging, but it's by no means finished.

Good for him.

 

[Mr Zappalanche]

Yeah, I totally get that. Someday there'll be a day when something like this doesn't bother you so much, but obviously that day ain't today.

Only thing that bothers me is that so many people this days act like they are saving the world singlehandly, and want the whole planet knows about it.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Those announcements are little bit cringey and narcistic imo. If he wants to be openly gay, people will figure it out without him announcing it .

Jesus...

 

[Pokecheque]

Only thing that bothers me is that so many people this days act like they are saving the world singlehandly, and want the whole planet knows about it.

Oooooookay I think we've reached peak hyperbole. Have a good day.

 

[henchman21]

I like that the kid came out. It sets the example for others that it is okay to be who you are. The simple fact that in the US, there are not many openly gay athletes because of the ramifications... it is even harder and more difficult at lower levels (kids are F cruel). This is a step toward inclusivity.

 

[McMetal]

It's high time the NHL had somebody publicly come out. There have been gay hockey players before. The number of people who have played in this league makes it a certainty. But making it public is a big step, and especially for a kid who might play in Nashville one day. Somebody has to break the glass ceiling.