Around the League 28: Expect the unexpected

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I know they’re contradicting statements. That’s why I said it the way I did with the word “somehow”. It’s not news that we seem to have a different view on player valuations than the league. You can’t point to the last three years in the playoffs as justification for those values because it really didn’t hit until this off season. We gave up a lot for Dougie, reaped the rewards and let him go. We don’t know the effect of that yet.

This coming season will be the first where we see if how we look at things stacks up to success. It’s gone both ways to this point (Dougie vs Dzingle/Jake) but if we truly regress this season you could easily start poking some holes in our game plan. I have no desire to go backwards during the prime of our key players so I’m on board.

It's one thing to say that they simply let him go. The thing is, though, that they added a lot of depth and talent on UFA Day in order to compensate for that loss, including Bear, Cole, and DeAngelo, and they didn't just replace guys from within without spending any cap space. Time will tell if that plan was the smart tact, of course.

 

[HisIceness]

 

[Wolfpuck]

Pat Brisson, huge Caniac.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Brady Tkachuk still unsigned...I thought that deal would've been penned on the day after the Svech deal...I wonder if his agent is trying to eke out a We Suck Tax on Ottawa similar to Columbus and Werenski.

 

[HisIceness]

Petterson still unsigned too.

 

[Wanderson]

has Ville Koivunen been invited for the training camp?

 

[cptjeff]

Petterson still unsigned too.

Rumor is that Petterson is using Kaprizov as a comparable. Speaking of contract drama...

 

[DaveG]

has Ville Koivunen been invited for the training camp?

Not sure yet. We know he's not going to be in the prospects showcase tournament (as well as the rest of the European guys) since the pre-season over there is already ongoing.

 

[Wanderson]

Not sure yet. We know he's not going to be in the prospects showcase tournament (as well as the rest of the European guys) since the pre-season over there is already ongoing.

The regular season has started. He scored a goal in the season premiere.

 

[spockBokk]

The regular season has started. He scored a goal in the season premiere.

So, does not the fact that his Liiga team has started their regular season kinda answer your own question? If he’s playing regular season games in Finland, he’s not going to stop, go to a training camp and play pre-season/rookie tournament games in NA.

 

[Wanderson]

So, does not the fact that his Liiga team has started their regular season kinda answer your own question? If he’s playing regular season games in Finland, he’s not going to stop, go to a training camp and play pre-season/rookie tournament games in NA.

No, Aatu Räty has been invited to participate in the NYI camp. He is coming, and he plays on the same team as Ville. A lot of prospects from the SHL will also join different camps, even though the season has already started.

 

[hblueridgegal]

My gal pals have already peaced out with no Sharpie on the telly.

 

[hblueridgegal]

For the Phil fans...

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Garrioch reports that Brady Tkachuk was offered 8 years at $8M AAV. More AAV than Svech, eh? Looks like the we suck tax is real in Ottawa.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I’m reasonably certain this is the only net Phil Kessel can dunk on.

 

[chaz4hockey]

I don't think there's much argument against Dundon being cheap anymore. He's shown again and again that he's happy to wear that crown. And that's got nothing to do with overpaying Hamilton (although replacing him with a league minimum contract doesn't help that image), but more about how he handles contract "negotiations"

But yet he spends to the cap.

That’s not Florida Marlin or Baltimore Oriole cheap.

 

[HisIceness]

Dahlin and Petterson due contracts too along with Tkachuk. Seasons less than a month away.

 

[bleedgreen]

If Tkachuk wants a short term deal with a last year higher pay that leaves him needing to be qualified at 9 or 10 million like his brother I'd tell him to pound sand and sit all year if he wants. They arent expected to be very good, wont hurt them that much.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why should Tkachuk sign an 8 year deal? It’s great that the canes have Svechnikov locked up long term, but if I was a 21/22 year old nhl star, I wouldn’t commit to 11 prime years with 1 team.

a lot can change over that term and having flexibility, when you’re going to be rich anyway, wound my preference.

Teams and fans hate it when guys want a say in where they go after 7-8 years, but can you blame them?

 

[Canes]

Garrioch reports that Brady Tkachuk was offered 8 years at $8M AAV. More AAV than Svech, eh? Looks like the we suck tax is real in Ottawa.

Well that and actual Canadian taxes.

Also I think even Melnyk being the owner people accuse Dundon of being, they still might stumble their way into a good hockey team soon enough.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Yeah, I'd agree that Tkachuk likely wants less term without much less AAV. Ottawa looks like they might have a bright future, but I wouldn't tie myself to that situation too long without knowing they spend to win. Also, you look at guys like McDavid and Eichel and probably others that might somewhat regret longer deals with poorly run teams and you might hesitate to put yourself in the same situation.

 

[Canes]

I think Tkachuk wants something like the Aho contract. A high AAV without buying more than 1-2 UFA years at most. Then he bolts to the USA somewhere, maybe in tandem with his brother.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Why should Tkachuk sign an 8 year deal? It’s great that the canes have Svechnikov locked up long term, but if I was a 21/22 year old nhl star, I wouldn’t commit to 11 prime years with 1 team.

a lot can change over that term and having flexibility, when you’re going to be rich anyway, wound my preference.

Teams and fans hate it when guys want a say in where they go after 7-8 years, but can you blame them?

I think too often people forget this is work for these players. I wouldn’t commit to any company for that long even as a normal working class guy. Even when you think things are good they can change very quickly. I’ve experienced it myself.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I think too often people forget this is work for these players. I wouldn’t commit to any company for that long even as a normal working class guy. Even when you think things are good they can change very quickly. I’ve experienced it myself.

I think that it depends on the player and the team. I'm the kind of worker, personally, that values continuity over flexibility, as long as said company is a successful and good one to work for. The Canes have been a very, very good team for three straight seasons. It's no wonder a guy like Svechnikov accepted an 8 year term. I agree that it probably is going to be much, much harder for a team like Ottawa or Buffalo to do this after the Eichel debacle.

 

[bleedgreen]

Why should Tkachuk sign an 8 year deal? It’s great that the canes have Svechnikov locked up long term, but if I was a 21/22 year old nhl star, I wouldn’t commit to 11 prime years with 1 team.

a lot can change over that term and having flexibility, when you’re going to be rich anyway, wound my preference.

Teams and fans hate it when guys want a say in where they go after 7-8 years, but can you blame them?

I'm not saying they should try to force him into long term, Im saying they should avoid him having a backloaded deal so it makes the qualifying offer like his brothers or us with JK.