Around the League 2018-2019 Part 3

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[King'sPawn]

Somehow WD finds employment as a coach again.

Tigers are moving on from Clouston after 16 seasons in organization. . . . Desjardins on way back to Medicine Hat bench

 

[Bandit]

Somehow WD finds employment as a coach again.

Tigers are moving on from Clouston after 16 seasons in organization. . . . Desjardins on way back to Medicine Hat bench

“I think it really is a case of going a different direction. We’ve been doing the same thing for a lot of years and it’s time to try something new. "

By going back to the guy who was coach & GM right before the guy that just left. Sounds like they are a match made in Moronsville.

 

[kingsboy11]

Somehow WD finds employment as a coach again.

Tigers are moving on from Clouston after 16 seasons in organization. . . . Desjardins on way back to Medicine Hat bench

Good riddance

 

[KINGS17]

Toronto has obvious problems with the salary cap. With Matthews and Tavares they have a great one-two punch at center, and Kadri is the ideal 3C for a contending team. It's obvious Marner is going to ask for 8 years at at least $10M a season. I don't think you can pay three forwards a combined $31M+ and win in the NHL, so if you're Toronto's GM what moves do you make?

Marner is going to be an RFA. Should Toronto low ball him and hope there isn't an offer sheet?

Wait for a Marner offer sheet and take the picks?

Trade Marner and ask for cost-controlled and talented, but unproven players in return? - I think this in the answer.

If Matthews and Tavares can't lead the Leafs to a championship, then you paid the wrong guys.

Dermott is going to be an RFA after next season, and will be due good raise. I am sure Toronto doesn't want to lose him.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Considering Blake fleeced the Leafs in the Muzzin deal. I don't blame him in trying again.

 

[kings11]

Considering Blake fleeced the Leafs in the Muzzin deal. I don't blame him in trying again.

Watch us actually get Liljegren this time... Just to see the TML fans on here implode

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Watch us actually get Liljegren this time... Just to see the TML fans on here implode

Yeah it would explode. They probably want Sandin though. I think they are trying to avoid Lilegren and his low IQ hockey sense at all costs.

 

[kovacro]

Yeah it would explode. They probably want Sandin though. I think they are trying to avoid Lilegren and his low IQ hockey sense at all costs.

I'll take Marleau, Jeremy Bracco or Dmytro Timashov, a 2019 5th round pick and a 2020 2nd round pick for a 2019 6th round pick and Derek Forbort.

 

[kingsholygrail]

What would even be the point of bringing in Marleau?

 

[KINGS17]

What would even be the point of bringing in Marleau?

The other assets the Leafs would have to give the Kings to take him.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Marleau and Liljegren for future considerations, those future considerations being my 'threadban' button so I don't get to go HAM on all the suddenly-disinterested/'not actually mad' visitors we get

 

[redcard]

What would even be the point of bringing in Marleau?

To take him off their hands for a price. We aren't doing anything with the space, we're not going to be a good team next year, if we can get a pick and a prospect for taking his contract its worth it. Then at the deadline we can retain and trade him to a contender.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Remember when Teruveinen and Bickell’s contract went from Chicago to Carolina for a couple meh draft picks? That should be framework we are shooting for here.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Remember when Teruveinen and Bickell’s contract went from Chicago to Carolina for a couple meh draft picks? That should be framework we are shooting for here.

Which in this case would require a guy like Kasperi Kapanen or Andreas Johnsson coming back along with Patrick Marleau.

Bob McKenzie talked about there having been interest in Alec Martinez when the Kings had made him available, and there were rumors that Toronto even considered a package deal involving Martinez along with Muzzin when trade discussions were going on between Blake and Dubas.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Marleau and Liljegren for future considerations, those future considerations being my 'threadban' button so I don't get to go HAM on all the suddenly-disinterested/'not actually mad' visitors we get

I truly believe the Kings got 2 of the Leafs 3 best prospects in the Muzzin deal. I would not believe those Leafs fans raving about Lilegren in the playoffs too much when the Durzi talk started at the Memorial Cup. He was practically invisible against Charlotte in the AHL. A lot of skating and flash but little results. I question if he will ever have the hockey IQ to take him to a higher level. Probably the reason why he fell hard in the draft.

Sandin is the Leafs best prospect. Even though he had a rough game (my shift by shift report is in his prospects thread) he was noticeable. Very active player, reminds me of Jake Gardiner a bit. The other Leafs prospects do not excite me. Bracco invisible 5v5, but perks up on the PP. He is not physical and not explosive as a skater, but he is a good PP specialist. Top 6 or bust IMO. 5v5 will be his challenge.

If Blake is smart he will insist on the Leafs 2020 first rd pick to take Marleau and his salary off the Leafs hands. If he did his homework he would know the Leafs have 14M(including using the Horton LTIR of 5.3) to sign Marner, Johnsson, Kapanen, and 3 D men 2 that played in their top 4. That's some solid Blake is doing if he is going to take back 6.25M to help a team desperate for cap space.

 

[member 88115]

Watch us actually get Liljegren this time... Just to see the TML fans on here implode

I hope not, Liljegren reminds me Clague. Lots of Flash, but very little IQ

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Read today, that the rumoured player going back is Toffoli....

 

[KopitarFAN]

Read today, that the rumoured player going back is Toffoli....

He is a player who could blow up with them.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Read today, that the rumoured player going back is Toffoli....

That would be Pearson for Hagelin 2.0, ugh.

 

[kovacro]

Read today, that the rumoured player going back is Toffoli....

Where did you read that?

I’d wonder if the Leafs would have interest in Campbell considering their backup position was rather shit last season.

 

[kovacro]

He is a player who could blow up with them.

As in get fat?

I don’t see him as a Babcock type of player. I’d have a feeling he would be in his doghouse fairly quickly.

 

[KopitarFAN]

As in get fat?

I don’t see him as a Babcock type of player. I’d have a feeling he would be in his doghouse fairly quickly.

You might be right, i'm just looking on paper and could see him riding the coattails of Tavares/Matthews to a big season and someone give him a huge deal that they regret 6 months later.

 

[damacles1156]

Toronto has obvious problems with the salary cap. With Matthews and Tavares they have a great one-two punch at center, and Kadri is the ideal 3C for a contending team. It's obvious Marner is going to ask for 8 years at at least $10M a season. I don't think you can pay three forwards a combined $31M+ and win in the NHL, so if you're Toronto's GM what moves do you make?

Marner is going to be an RFA. Should Toronto low ball him and hope there isn't an offer sheet?

Wait for a Marner offer sheet and take the picks?

Trade Marner and ask for cost-controlled and talented, but unproven players in return? - I think this in the answer.

If Matthews and Tavares can't lead the Leafs to a championship, then you paid the wrong guys.

Dermott is going to be an RFA after next season, and will be due good raise. I am sure Toronto doesn't want to lose him.

It's what happens when you draft well, you have to pay them all.

 

[kilowatt]

That would be Pearson for Hagelin 2.0, ugh.

There’s no way that would be all though. Toffoli, the younger, better, cheaper player for Marleau, the older, worse, more expensive player?

Has to be more to it. A first or Sandin, maybe.