Anna Kane Accuses Evander of Abandoning His Family and Betting On/Throwing Games Pt.2

[Syckle78]

People like this, on both sides, shouldn’t have kids.

And what is it exactly that she has been accused of that makes you comfortable of calling her an unfit parent?

 

[supsens]

And what is it exactly that she has been accused of that makes you comfortable of calling her an unfit parent?

Not getting a divorce and no trying to convince a judge the gambling debt was stolen behind her back so its not hers and all his wages should be subject to garnishment before the creditors can try collecting.

 

[Syckle78]

Not getting a divorce and no trying to convince a judge the gambling debt was stolen behind her back so its not hers and all his wages should be subject to garnishment before the creditors can try collecting.

This is barely coherent but what I'm getting is her divorcing a degenerate gambler that lost his ability to provide security for her,his baby girl and unborn child makes her a bad mom? The cesspool that is hfboards is really something to behold.

 

[Voight]

It seems like a very messy breakup involving a guy who may have a gambling addiction, which is not pretty.

What I don't understand is why people here are so invested and worked up about it.

My guess is its because hes always been a bad team mate and a guy who acts like its everyone vs him.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

And what is it exactly that she has been accused of that makes you comfortable of calling her an unfit parent?

She married Evander Kane.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

It seems like a very messy breakup involving a guy who may have a gambling addiction, which is not pretty.

What I don't understand is why people here are so invested and worked up about it.

You don't understand why people who post on a hockey forum are getting worked up about allegations that a player is betting on his own games?

I personally don't think it's worth getting worked up over, but I understand why others are.

 

[Slimmy]

Wow, just wow! Poor kids as in sympathetic, not fincial situation lol

Edit: as in "you poor boy, did you hurt yourself." Get it?

No, I don't understand what you're on about.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Actually I would find this fairly doubtful. It should be noted that betting on his own team could get him banned, but is in no way itself a crime.

This is certainly not the like the historical "black sox" scandal where a whole bunch of players on a team were paid off by some bookie to throw some games.

In order to prove a criminal case in a court of law, they would have to at a minimum prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he specifically threw a game or took specific enough actions to clearly intentionally rig a prop bet. (I'm not even sure proving he rigged a prop be would actually be specifically criminal or not incidentally since that would be a somewhat different situation than being paid to do so.)

If you could rig a prop bet revolving around some how do you ever lose money holy shit. Kane is the worst gambler ever then. The type to bet on the fight at the end of rocky 3 and bet on Mr. T

What a joke of a take

there is a reason NBA doubles in revenues over NHL and is infinitely more popular worldwide. player gambling and baby mama drama is not the reason why

You took that way too seriously

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Since when is she the victim? If a victim exists it's the NHL.

She trusted her husband and he took all their money and gave it to casinos.

You're a victim when your spouse betrays your trust and uses all your joint finances.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Not arguing with your counterpoint; just filling in a couple of blanks: since the NHL player is being paid around $7M/year (assume no taxes/deductions), and the NHL player's wife has not been employed during their marriage, how much of the $7M/yr should be deposited annually into their respective personal accounts?

Its worth considering she trusted her husband.

It's also worth considering she's lived lavishly as well and didn't think to save even while she saw his addiction spiraling.

We don't know for sure which is true

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Correct the ISSUE at stake is what about his contract and future earnings. The creditors already attempted to force Kane from CH7 -> CH11 and failed. Plus some of his creditors are claiming fraud which CAN NOT be discharged via BK.

For example one of his creditors ALLEGE****** that he filled out his loan docs fraudulently with no intentions of making payments. He went around to SEVERAL lenders using his future earnings on his contract as collateral. This could be argued to be fraud which would at the very least not make it dischargeable. The one alleging fraud claimed he never even made ONE payment to service the debt lol.

Sharks' Evander Kane sued for $15 million by lender alleging fraud in $1.5M loan application

The creditor sounds like a clown so hope they get shafted lol. It sounds like a bunch of these companies did not do their due diligence.

I wonder if they did due diligence and were hoping to prey on him with interest when be couldn't pay on time and are now shocked bc they underestimated his issues

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

You don't understand why people who post on a hockey forum are getting worked up about allegations that a player is betting on his own games?

I personally don't think it's worth getting worked up over, but I understand why others are.

I understand the implications of a player betting on his own games but there's been zero evidence of that after her initial allegations and we're on thread #2 that comes with mod warnings and babysitting.

 

[Albatros]

She trusted her husband and he took all their money and gave it to casinos.

You're a victim when your spouse betrays your trust and uses all your joint finances.

You mean all his money while the wife apparently has no income to speak of. I fail to see how spending most of the money would be much different to earning all of it.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

You mean all his money while the wife apparently has no income to speak of. I fail to see how spending most of the money would be much different to earning all of it.

You think that's how marriage works? Lol.

 

[Albatros]

You think that's how marriage works? Lol.

I'm married and have my own finances for the most part.

 

[Egg]

She trusted her husband and he took all their money and gave it to casinos.

You're a victim when your spouse betrays your trust and uses all your joint finances.

You're determining this based on allegations. There are two sides to every story.

Honestly. Relatively easy to investigate the money trail, and other forms of evidence to determine what he has done.

It is incredibly tacky to throw dirt on an ex, and doing so should be taken with a grain of salt.

Just like I would question his calling into question her "mental health" as politely calling her cray cray in a subsequent Twitter comment to "clear his name". Okay, fine, but this doesn't explain why you chose to not only be with her, but to have kids with her. You knew her mental state, unless are trying to absolve yourself of any responsibility for your own choices.

I got divorced, and kept every financial record. My ex wife stated I abandoned her, and left her without a penny (even though I had a paper trail of her accepting to sign the divorce petition, etc). I never bothered fighting with her, because I knew what I gave her financially spoke for itself. I had evidence, so no need to "clear my name". I gave her radio silence, and held my end of the bargain in ensuring not a single payment was late. I was just as responsible for that relationship's failure, so throwing dirt on her, would erase that I still spend a significant portion of my life with her, and still had love for her. Why take a step back, when I can learn from my own mistakes and grow--who cares about where she went wrong.

When I see mud slinging on both sides (and people playing the victim), I see two guilty parties, and am not quick to draw conclusions.

The only victims in such settings, are the children caught in the crossfire. They don't ask to be born.

 

[YippieKaey]

This is barely coherent but what I'm getting is her divorcing a degenerate gambler that lost his ability to provide security for her,his baby girl and unborn child makes her a bad mom? The cesspool that is hfboards is really something to behold.

This might be the case. But, it is also possible she should just get a job and support and provide security for herself. Spouses shouldn´t be financially dependent on each other, it´s 2021 not 1921.

 

[King'sPawn]

You mean all his money while the wife apparently has no income to speak of. I fail to see how spending most of the money would be much different to earning all of it.

It depends on the agreement/expectation.

Though it's very telling that you see no problem with Kane spending all of his money, his wife having no income of her own, but having it not matter whether or not there's enough to go to the well-being of his children.

 

[Albatros]

It depends on the agreement/expectation.

Though it's very telling that you see no problem with Kane spending all of his money, his wife having no income of her own, but having it not matter whether or not there's enough to go to the well-being of his children.

In his bankruptcy filing Kane listed his daughter, his sister, his parents, his grandmother, and two of his uncles as dependents.

 

[Egg]

makes her a bad mom?

I don't see her as a bad mom, personally.

I just gave her a little less benefit of the doubt, when she went to the media vs the courts to completely destroy his name.

If he is a horrible father, you married him. You still have a child who doesn't need to be faced with all this trauma.

It just shows horrible judgment on her part. Doesn't make her a bad parent, mind you.

 

[Egg]

This might be the case. But, it is also possible she should just get a job and support and provide security for herself.

It's not even getting a job. Build your assets. Allocate cash.

He is rich.

If she's a boss, he gives her a mill, she would turn it to 3.

I don't know. When I see mud slinging, and martyr complexes, is see guilty parties all around.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

You're determining this based on allegations. .

Yes. He said "there is no victim". Which was also him making a determination while ignoring the allegations which is way worse.

I'm saying IF what the wife is saying is accurate, then yes, she is a victim.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Spouses shouldn´t be financially dependent on each other, it´s 2021 not 1921.

There's nothing wrong with it if they are.

If you've never babysat a 2 year old I can tell you holy crap it's every bit as draining as my day job was. If someone takes up raising the kid instead of a day job bc the spouse provides financial support, that's perfectly reasonable. Hell, regardless of the reason if one spouse agrees to financially support the other AND they wind up with a kid...you can probably see where I'm going.

 

[WiHockeyGuy]

This might be the case. But, it is also possible she should just get a job and support and provide security for herself. Spouses shouldn´t be financially dependent on each other, it´s 2021 not 1921.

It is hard to pinpoint the most ignorant post in this entire trash heap of a thread, but this one is awfully close.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

It's not even getting a job. Build your assets. Allocate cash.

He is rich.

If she's a boss, he gives her a mill, she would turn it to 3.

I don't know. When I see mud slinging, and martyr complexes, is see guilty parties all around.

It's also possible as he went further into debt she blew her money to keep them all afloat. Or maybe she wasn't given what you think she was.

But if she was given the type of money we all think she probably was given and just wasted it all on clothes and cars, etc then yea she royally screwed up as well.

Sometimes it's not a martyr complex as much as its someone who got screwed so royally that the facts are this damning