Rumor: Andrei Markov's Agent Has Contacted Habs (Looking for $2M Contract)

[DangerDave]

Yes, give Markov a $1.5M base salary with performance bonus structured in. He gets his 1000 games and we can shelter him. No back to back games and if it don't work out cause he is too old, bury the contract in the AHL and it only chews up $500k of our salary cap.

What's the risks? He takes ice time away from Kulak, Reilly, Mete, Chariot? Well, I think the competition for ice time is a good thing.

The risk? Were already a bubble team and he costs us a few games

 

[DangerDave]

I guess it depends on what he considers NHL level. Chara has been much derided the last 2 seasons and yet can still play in the NHL despite slowing down a lot. In comparisons to his 5 year earlier self he doesn't look like an NHL player. I am questioning Hartley on what he is evaluating.

While he says Markov isn't at an NHL level, is he comparing it subconsciously against what he once was, or against actual NHL level talent? Our teams need is certainly different than almost every other team, which had nothing to do with the fact Markov should have been allowed his 1000 Game. Period.

We were once known for how we honoured our former players. From what I have seen we have become Ballard era leafs through and through. Terrible owner, bad management, mistreatment of players (Keon says hi), not caring about winning, etc. As long as Goffrey gets his cap space money it doesn't even matter. We can miss the playoff and still make more money than losing a playoff round. We need 4 home games to make up the money he has saved under bargainbins cap management. So why strive for better, The amount of different players we roll though each year guarantee new jersey sales each year. Put a pinstripe on a habs cap, voila completists will buy one to wear and one to store.

Theirs a distinct difference between Chara and Markov. One is close to 7 feet tall and is still incredibly strong.

Sure, you hear people talking about how Zdeno isn't a number one D and that he's too slow but they put him with a quality mobile dman and he can still get it done. Markov doesn't have all that to work with. It's gonna be exactly like Mark Streit all over again.

 

[Benstheman]

Not totally against Marky. His PP IQ alone might worth it from a Habs POV. If there are no other options, why not. 2M$ isn't the end of the world. You use him as a 3rd pairing D and QB on the pp.

 

[MakeTheGoalsLarger]

nope

There are essentially 2 things a player can be usefull at:
1) help the team win in the playoffs
2) help the team tank in the season

Markov sucks at both.

 

[Treb]

Garbage is our LHD situation. He may not be Markov of early 2000s but he'd still be better than anyone we currently have, including Mete and Kulak. He can mentor the kids, teach them how to read the ice like he did, he can help our crap PP, etc...

Your irrational hate for him is odd.

Your irrational love for him is odd.

 

[peate]

Even Hickey got his word in on Markov.

Repatriating Andrei Markov makes sense for Canadiens on many levels

 

[Edgy]

Your irrational love for him is odd.

Do you ever have something of substance to say? Because these cute one liners you think are clever, just aren't.

 

[PriceIsGod]

Seriously we have the cap space for 1 season.. even if it doesn't work out its so low risk lol

 

[MrNasty]

The hockey gods would want him to finish his career with Montreal. Please the Gods MB & do a Plekanec.
If Markov is that desperate to sign then he should sign for 1.1M so it doesn't hurt the cap.

 

[CTHabsfan]

Bring him back for league minimum. We're not being nostalgic about Markov, our d really is that bad, and it's a month away from opening night. He can be one of our 5 7th D that occupy the 2-7 spots, and can't possibly make our putrid power play any worse.

No, people are being nostalgic in regards to Markov. How many Canadiens fans would want him back if he had played 1,010 games, rather than 990? Not too many, I'd think. How many Canadiens fans would want Markov on the team if he had spent the last two years playing in the KHL after spending his entire NHL career with the New York Islanders? I'd guess less than 1%.

 

[Treb]

Do you ever have something of substance to say? Because these cute one liners you think are clever, just aren't.

Every person I know of that saw Markov play in the last 2 years agree that he would struggle to hold a spot in the NHL or at best could be a bottom pair D. Every person that claim he could be an important D has not seen him play in the last 2 years afaik.

Better?

 

[Rapala]

No, it's just he's garbage and we shouldn't be done charity team. Live in the past much?

There is more garbage out of the front office than Markov would ever bring on the ice so there's always that.

 

[Edgy]

Every person I know of that saw Markov play in the last 2 years agree that he would struggle to hold a spot in the NHL or at best could be a bottom pair D. Every person that claim he could be an important D has not seen him play in the last 2 years afaik.

Better?

Much, actually.

And I have seen him play, not in great depth and none of us arguing for his return have any disillusion to his decline or role on the team if we bring him back.

We don't expect him to step into 25+ minutes a game top pairing LHD role. He'll be playing 15minutes a game tops, running the pp and mentoring the kids while giving us much needed proven veteran leadership depth on d. There is no reason to think with limited minutes and pp time he can't be useful.

2mil is nothing against our cap and like it or not we do not have a better option on LD than him right now. We can't trade for one and we traded our best prospect that might have been that. I'd take Markov's mentorship to help Mete, Kulak and Chiarot improve their game any day over our entire d coaching staff.

 

[Schwang]

Not totally against Marky. His PP IQ alone might worth it from a Habs POV. If there are no other options, why not. 2M$ isn't the end of the world. You use him as a 3rd pairing D and QB on the pp.

The issue is his foot speed. He gets stripped at the blue line and there’s no way he gets back. He showed that in his final season. Teams are WAY too fast for Markov these days.
In this case, I’d much rather develop a young guy and go with that. The risk/reward would be much higher.

 

[CAR3YPR1CE]

Marky will forever be one of my fav all time Habs. But, he messed up, when he tried to represent himself with the Habs that off season.

He essentially ruined his legacy with the Canadiens. Not only that, he created a premature hole in the Canadiens D that has yet to be filled. He pretty much was a direct cause of the current Canadiens plight on defense.

Remember Bergy stating.. "If you want loyalty get a dog." Im certain Marky burned his bridge with the Habs. He shouldn't expect any loyalty or interest from the Canadiens.

Markov should be ashamed at how unprofessionally he left the NHL & Canadiens. And, will unfortunately, always have a tarnished reputation after his display of arrogance and ignorance in trying to negotiate for himself. When proper communication with an agent could have made all the difference.

Love ya Marky, but, you dug your ditch, now enjoy the obscure and disadvantageous view.

 

[Treb]

Much, actually.

And I have seen him play, not in great depth and none of us arguing for his return have any disillusion to his decline or role on the team if we bring him back.

We don't expect him to step into 25+ minutes a game top pairing LHD role. He'll be playing 15minutes a game tops, running the pp and mentoring the kids while giving us much needed proven veteran leadership depth on d. There is no reason to think with limited minutes and pp time he can't be useful.

2mil is nothing against our cap and like it or not we do not have a better option on LD than him right now. We can't trade for one and we traded our best prospect that might have been that. I'd take Markov's mentorship to help Mete, Kulak and Chiarot improve their game any day over our entire d coaching staff.

If you have Markov at 15 minutes, it means 45 minutes for Mete and Kulak/Chiarot. This means one of them plays over 25 minutes or they both play 22.5 minutes. Is it reallywhat you want?

 

[Edgy]

Marky will forever be one of my fav all time Habs. But, he messed up, when he tried to represent himself with the Habs that off season.

How so? How is not wanting an agent and thinking a team you played for your entire career would be so ungrateful and disrespectful?

He essentially ruined his legacy with the Canadiens. Not only that, he created a premature hole in the Canadiens D that has yet to be filled. He pretty much was a direct cause of the current Canadiens plight on defense.

Huh? Blaming him for Beregvin's lack of vision, understanding of team's needs? Bergevin refused to sign him, not the other way around. What was Markov supposed to do?

Remember Bergy stating.. "If you want loyalty get a dog." Im certain Marky burned his bridge with the Habs. He shouldn't expect any loyalty or interest from the Canadiens.

Yes, that was in response to his lack of loyalty. Not the other way around. Markov wouldn't even negotiate with other NHL teams. Your grasp of things is quite twisted.

Markov should be ashamed at how unprofessionally he left the NHL & Canadiens. And, will unfortunately, always have a tarnished reputation after his display of arrogance and ignorance in trying to negotiate for himself. When proper communication with an agent could have made all the difference.

Why is arrogant to not want to pay an agent, exactly? Especially when talking to a team that you've played your entire career with? Markov isn't the one that needs to be ashamed, it's the organization that does. That was no way to treat a player that has been loyal to you his entire career and remained so, opting to go to the KHL than negotiate with another team.

Love ya Marky, but, you dug your ditch, now enjoy the obscure and disadvantageous view.

What obscure and disadvantageous view? Nothing in your post makes any sense or remotely reflects reality.

 

[Edgy]

If you have Markov at 15 minutes, it means 45 minutes for Mete and Kulak/Chiarot. This means one of them plays over 25 minutes or they both play 22.5 minutes. Is it reallywhat you want?

Mete and Kulak average 17min per game, Chariot around 18. Markov will cut into that time, not increase it.

 

[CTHabsfan]

Mete and Kulak average 17min per game, Chariot around 18. Markov will cut into that time, not increase it.

???????

So the Canadiens will dress four LD every game?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Markov was not able to skate anymore at the half of his last season 2 years ago

There is no way he can play in a top 6 2 years after.

 

[Edgy]

???????

So the Canadiens will dress four LD every game?

You seriously need someone to explain it to you?

 

[Treb]

You seriously need someone to explain it to you?

Well either we dress 4 LD or Petry and Weber play 25+ minutes every games including time on the left.

 

[Edgy]

Well either we dress 4 LD or Petry and Weber play 25+ minutes every games including time on the left.

Or Markov is primarily used as 3rd pairing and PP specialist while splitting time on 1st/2nd pairing while one of Mete, Kulak or Chairot sits out. You don't play Markov back to back games, or rest him against weaker teams. Kids still get to play their 17-18minutes a game on different lines.

 

[Treb]

Or Markov is primarily used as 3rd pairing and PP specialist while splitting time on 1st/2nd pairing while one of Mete, Kulak or Chairot sits out. You don't play Markov back to back games, or rest him against weaker teams. Kids still get to play their 17-18minutes a game on different lines.

But on game were Markov play 15, someone need to fill the other 45 on the left. So even if they average 17-18 mins due to the rotation, someone will have to play heavier minutes in Markov's games.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Or Markov is primarily used as 3rd pairing and PP specialist while splitting time on 1st/2nd pairing while one of Mete, Kulak or Chairot sits out. You don't play Markov back to back games, or rest him against weaker teams. Kids still get to play their 17-18minutes a game on different lines.

Even if markov was a third pair , and played lets say the 6 minutes of the entire powerplay. He would not be able to follow up the 9 more minutes at even strength.
He was not even good in the KHL , let alone in the NHL in 2019.