And Then Everyone Dared Disturb the Sound of Silence (CBA & Lockout) XXIII ‎

[Hanklite*]

Yep.

LeBrun on RDS said the media knows where these talks are being held. Proskauer (sp?) office in NYC. He said he and other media types were heading down there tonight.

Interesting.

The Proskauer company's site says this about their company:

"firm is involved, representing multinational corporations, not-for-profit institutions and individuals in corporate, litigation, labor and employment, real estate, health care, personal planning, tax and intellectual property matters."

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

I should add LeBrun said Proskauer is where the office of Bob Bannerman is, who is working for the NHL as a lawyer.

 

[LadyKing17]

The tweets could have been deleted simply because of all the people who freaked out over them. He usually seems like a level-headed guy who gets annoyed by exaggerated hysteria.

 

[santiclaws]

Interesting.

The Proskauer company's site says this about their company:

"firm is involved, representing multinational corporations, not-for-profit institutions and individuals in corporate, litigation, labor and employment, real estate, health care, personal planning, tax and intellectual property matters."

They're famous for union busting. Bettman and Stern are both alumni. They represent the NHL, the NBA, the NFL and MLB.

 

[Turrican*]

So the PA are in enemy territory?

 

[HavlatMach9]

which could be easily moved to better markets

They could also be contracted, it seems the point of having teams in places that are losing money is thinking a decade or two down the line, more about growing the sport.

 

[Tra La La]

They're famous for union busting. Bettman and Stern are both alumni. They represent the NHL, the NBA, the NFL and MLB.

And Bill Daly

 

[bleedblue94]

They're famous for union busting. Bettman and Stern are both alumni. They represent the NHL, the NBA, the NFL and MLB.

imagine that. and people wonder why the players turned to fehr?

 

[Slatsmsg]

Still think this deal gets done shortly. In fact, I think the fact that there seem to be some leaks might be a good thing. Helps to build the excitement and anticipation of a deal being struck. Is it going to happen, no its not, well maybe, oh my god there has been a concession finally, Bettman did what? Fehr back down??

It's smoke and mirrors, a deal is close at hand.

 

[MrNasty]

Anyone that thinks it is easy to move teams...or even sell them should read this. The Stanley Cup champs can't even find a buyer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/11/07/spector_nhl_cba_lockout_wednesday/

 

[RealGudbranson]

Has contraction ever happened before in the NHL?

While it does seem logical to place bleeding franchises in unestablished markets, it's no easy feat. There are negotiating costs with a new owner if the initial owner does not want to move the city, negotiation with the relocation's city government, hiring new arena/hockey operations/management staff, brand creation, etc etc etc. While it seems "easy." It's still the owners who will have to foot an immediate bill that goes way beyond the losses of a single season. If it were so simple, the Coyotes would have been long out of Phoenix.

And what I've briefly, and haphazardly outlined does not even take into account the huge risk that the new market fails too.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Has contraction ever happened before in the NHL?

Cleveland Barons ''merging'' with the Minnesota Stars would be a close comparison.

 

[zytz]

i dont believe so, nor does it need to happen now.

kansas city, markham, quebec city, even potentially seattle would all be alternatives to seriously explore to relocated the problem franchises

someone posted this in a thread before and i think it was an interesting perspective if you read it all the way thru

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articl...nks-expansion-would-help-end-NHL-lockout.html

Im sorry Kansas City?

 

[waffledave]

Still think this deal gets done shortly. In fact, I think the fact that there seem to be some leaks might be a good thing. Helps to build the excitement and anticipation of a deal being struck. Is it going to happen, no its not, well maybe, oh my god there has been a concession finally, Bettman did what? Fehr back down??

It's smoke and mirrors, a deal is close at hand.

Most likely some sort of offer was made, they decided to take a break, a bunch of people were all emotional and angry after the offer was made and texted all their friends and the news was leaked in the heat of the moment.

Doesn't necessarily reflect how things will continue.

 

[waffledave]

Anyone that thinks it is easy to move teams...or even sell them should read this. The Stanley Cup champs can't even find a buyer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/11/07/spector_nhl_cba_lockout_wednesday/

Selling and relocating are 2 different things. They'd find a buyer for most small market teams in 5 minutes if they allowed said buyer to move the team anywhere they wanted.

 

[bishop12]

Im pretty sure the league contracted before the original 6 and I don't think they have since.

This was a rhetorical question...the answer is NO.

 

[Mike Jones]

Im sorry Kansas City?

Home of the Russell Stover Selects Tier 1 Elite hockey program.

But you already knew that, right?

 

[bishop12]

Anyone that thinks it is easy to move teams...or even sell them should read this. The Stanley Cup champs can't even find a buyer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/11/07/spector_nhl_cba_lockout_wednesday/

Depends on the price tag.....

 

[smithy]

Proskauer Rose is the biggest sports law firm.

 

[santiclaws]

Anyone that thinks it is easy to move teams...or even sell them should read this. The Stanley Cup champs can't even find a buyer.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/11/07/spector_nhl_cba_lockout_wednesday/

AEG is being sold, not just the Kings. The Kings are just a tiny part of the AEG empire.

 

[bishop12]

Another TO team, Quebec, Seattle..there's 3 better markets.

The PA is just saying, if you wanna tough it out with these dogs, you've gotta nut up and pay for it...not only the players.

 

[bleedblue94]

Im sorry Kansas City?

yup, there have been sustainability and viability studies done. it was actually a place rumored for the islander to move to, and they hosted a preseason game their last year which sold out and was a massive success. they didnt do that on accident. yahoo had an article about it last year as well

 

[HavlatMach9]

This was a rhetorical question...the answer is NO.

Relocation is contraction + expansion. If you relocate teams to viable markets, then you forego the chance to expand there. The NHL trying to keep the weaker teams where they are means more NHLPA members especially once you expand.

 

[bishop12]

Why does my fav sport have to be a total cluster****? I'm sitting here at work, waiting for some new tweets to appear...good god.

 

[bishop12]

The NHL is so good at making things really difficult. It's the George Can'tstandsya of Sports.