And Then Everyone Dared Disturb the Sound of Silence (CBA & Lockout) XXIII ‎

[mouser]

Previous thread here:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1280545

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[Dubi Doo]

Negotiations are up and down, people. It wasn't going to be a smooth ride. Lets hope communications continue.

 

[Gberg]

I diagree obviously. Simple fact is all the salaries in the league go into a pot to determine how that relates to a percentage of HRR. All players put a portion of their salary into escrow each year and if the total pot is over the agreed upon % then all the players pay the difference. What makes the salaries go over the allotted percentage is mainly due to players that have very high salaries that exceed the cap hit. Thus all players have to compensate for it including the poorer ones.

What are you talking about. By reducing player share from 57/50, all players are taking a hit. They are doing this in order to keep struggling franchises viable. Why should both the struggling franchises and the rich ones benefit? Your comparison is not valid.

 

[HartsyMania]

I just want hockey.

 

[Boltsfan2029]

give me a break, you want to compare info of the past month against a full seasons collected info when contrasted against all the other years surrounding it?

Absolutely. Things change drastically in 7 years. It was a simple question - how much has attendance increased so far this season? Should be easy enough to look at attendance figures for this year vs. last year.

 

[ColdSteel2]

It's great that they are talking but it sounds like they are trying to convince each other the other side is unreasonable rather than finding a common ground.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Awesome title.

 

[MrNasty]

What are you talking about. By reducing player share from 57/50, all players are taking a hit. They are doing this in order to keep struggling franchises viable. Why should both the struggling franchises and the rich ones benefit? Your comparison is not valid.

you do realize that the poor players are being forced to also take a pay cut to compensate for the very high paid players don't you? of course they all take a hit but look at the big picture. The PA's fight is for all players but fights so that the highest paid players benefit the most. that is why the chose to exercise their right to extend the last CBA twice...they knew this day was coming.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

New thread already? Eh busy

 

[rdawg1234]

I just want hockey.

sameways.

Anyway so any more detailsd on this offer? Does anyone know if it's linked, as thats a huge move from the PA.

 

[Kelly23]

Are they still meeting have not payed attention for the last 3 hrs?

 

[Coach Nate]

Absolutely. Things change drastically in 7 years. It was a simple question - how much has attendance increased so far this season? Should be easy enough to look at attendance figures for this year vs. last year.

If that's all you need, average attendance is down about 700/game league wide. I don't have the numbers for attendance through Nov 8, 2011...but attendance is usually lower early in the season. I would venture a guess that attendance is about the same or up very little over last season.

 

[bleedblue94]

Absolutely. Things change drastically in 7 years. It was a simple question - how much has attendance increased so far this season? Should be easy enough to look at attendance figures for this year vs. last year.

with the recession and the fact most ahl cities have been hit harder than most nhl cities i did expect the bump to be less this time, but it is still a noticeable bump

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/19/ahl-attendance-up-as-the-lockout-drags-on/

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-phi...AHL-attendance-up-during-locko?blockID=791153

 

[Hanklite*]

Almost at the 4 hour mark and still going.

 

[T-Funk]

Almost at the 4 hour mark and still going.

this is so bad

omg they're meeting for a long time this is so terrible

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

Are they still meeting have not payed attention for the last 3 hrs?

Short Sum:

Reports say its not going well. NHLPA made new proposals on the key issues. Want owners to go from 200m in proposed rev sharing to 260. Also dont want to immediately go down to 50/50, proposed a gradual decrease and eventual 50/50 in yr 3

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Almost at the 4 hour mark and still going.

I wish my job worked like that...

Been here almost 4 hours now! Go Me!!!
How 'bout some revenue sharing???

 

[Ace Rimmer]

It's really a very calming little song.

 

[ThirdManIn]

I wish my job worked like that...

Been here almost 4 hours now! Go Me!!!
How 'bout some revenue sharing???

Something tells me that much more work is being done than just the meetings...

 

[rdawg1234]

Short Sum:

Reports say its not going well. NHLPA made new proposals on the key issues. Want owners to go from 200m in proposed rev sharing to 260. Also dont want to immediately go down to 50/50, proposed a gradual decrease and eventual 50/50 in yr 3

Technically the NHL offered to reach 50/50 by year 3 with their offer to pay for most of the make whole in the first 2 years(as that makes it more like 54% yr 1 then 51%) so as of right now, that's not a crazy change from the NHL's offer.

However we dont know if they offered a linked proposal and it's doubtable they want to put that much revenue sharing in(however maybe they'll compromise.)

everything like contract issues needs to be clarified though.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

Almost at the 4 hour mark and still going.

I thought both sides hated each other.

 

[enigmatic]

i know he doesn't know crap about hockey but mike francessa just said sources told him they are close to a deal......he doesn't know crap about hockey but he isn't the kind of guy to spew nonsense.....he must have heard that from a valid source

for those who don't know he is the main guy on WFAN in NY

 

[Bubba Thudd]

People talking without speaking,
People hearing without listening...

 

[santiclaws]

Short Sum:

Reports say its not going well. NHLPA made new proposals on the key issues. Want owners to go from 200m in proposed rev sharing to 260. Also dont want to immediately go down to 50/50, proposed a gradual decrease and eventual 50/50 in yr 3

Shorter summary:

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

 

[Stats01]

This CBA better be 8-10 years because these lockouts every 5-6 years is getting ridiculous.