Confirmed with Link: [ANA/TB] Eric Brewer for 3rd-round pick (2015)

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Outside the first pairing they lack mobility.

Garrison-Gudas
Carle-Sustr

That's serviceable but certainly isn't going to scare anyone. Any team with speed it going to expose that bottom 4.

Barberio is mobile but isn't good defensively. Rather have 4 reliable player's who may be slow then someone mobile who you can't trust.
 

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Barberio is mobile but isn't good defensively. Rather have 4 reliable player's who may be slow then someone mobile who you can't trust.

Agreed, although it may be worth the risk in Sustr's case.
 

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Even though we're keeping about a quarter of his salary, this should free up enough room for us to make another move and get a D ugprade soon. Yzerman didn't just make this decision to open up a roster spot.
 

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Even though we're keeping about a quarter of his salary, this should free up enough room for us to make another move and get a D ugprade soon. Yzerman didn't just make this decision to open up a roster spot.

I think so as well. Can't imagine it will be a supremely expensive D, though, considering the resignings we have coming up in the next couple of years. Methot, perhaps?
 

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I think so as well. Can't imagine it will be a supremely expensive D, though, considering the resignings we have coming up in the next couple of years. Methot, perhaps?

He's a lefty so makes no sense.

Why does this have to mean we add another D? We are already scratching one defender if we pick up another without moving one out someone else has to sit. Now we can scratch Barberio, Morrow and just one young forward and not have to send any down.
 

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Outside the first pairing they lack mobility.

Garrison-Gudas
Carle-Sustr

That's serviceable but certainly isn't going to scare anyone. Any team with speed it going to expose that bottom 4.

Exactly lets face it after Gudas we have nobody. Sustr Barbs and Carle make me nervous as hell and they haven't improved their game. Picking up a solid d-man i think could put us over the top. Kind of similar to picking up Sydor in 04.
 

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He's a lefty so makes no sense.

Why does this have to mean we add another D? We are already scratching one defender if we pick up another without moving one out someone else has to sit. Now we can scratch Barberio, Morrow and just one young forward and not have to send any down.

I believe Methot can play the right side.
 

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I believe Methot can play the right side.

They said that about Garrison and he's only played the left. Just because he can play on the right doesn't mean we should play him there if he isn't as good as he is on the left.
 

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Brewer made me crazy when he was played top minutes, but the past season or so? He's been mostly alright. Except for some dumb penalty minutes lately. We're getting weaker by his trade, not better. Sustr "giraffe on ice" and Barbs "my 'stache powers me' aren't going to carry us in the playoffs. Carle is a mess. Gudas is very inconsistent.

That leaves: Hedman, Stralman, and Garrison as our mostly reliable defensemen. We'll have to take this trade and turn it into a better defenseman or expect some serious growing pains.
 

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At the deadline:

Hedman-Stralman
Garrison-Rental
Carle-Gudas

If that rental is someone by the likes of Martin or Sekera our defense is cup-level ready. It'd be an elite top-4, while letting Gudas without making Gudas play over his head and allows us to shelter Carle.

Sustr/Barbs are not playoff material right now.
 

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Brewer made me crazy when he was played top minutes, but the past season or so? He's been mostly alright. Except for some dumb penalty minutes lately. We're getting weaker by his trade, not better. Sustr "giraffe on ice" and Barbs "my 'stache powers me' aren't going to carry us in the playoffs. Carle is a mess. Gudas is very inconsistent.

That leaves: Hedman, Stralman, and Garrison as our mostly reliable defensemen. We'll have to take this trade and turn it into a better defenseman or expect some serious growing pains.

My thoughts EXACTLY.
 

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Exactly lets face it after Gudas we have nobody. Sustr Barbs and Carle make me nervous as hell and they haven't improved their game. Picking up a solid d-man i think could put us over the top. Kind of similar to picking up Sydor in 04.

Who would you think we target? We had to give up a former top 5 pick so the price wasn't that cheap. Connolly could be the bait but we have no idea what type of value he truly holds.

We need to get a righty if we are going after someone. Those are in such high demand it's gonna be hard to find a team willing to move one. Wisniewski is Columbus seems ideal exept he has the same contract as Carle which is hard to take on. If we move Carle then it works but then we're going in circles replacing defenseman.
 

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In all honesty, given that this is Brewer's contract year, I can't believe he got us a 3rd. This is more JedYzerman. Brewer basically got traded as a rental. Rentals don't fetch big returns these days. We were gonna lose him at the end of the year regardless. We wind up with a 3rd.

ADD: Did I read correctly that this is EDM's 3rd coming our way? Meaning a 61-65 pick? That's insanely good value on Brewer in a contract year.
 

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Who would you think we target? We had to give up a former top 5 pick so the price wasn't that cheap. Connolly could be the bait but we have no idea what type of value he truly holds.

We need to get a righty if we are going after someone. Those are in such high demand it's gonna be hard to find a team willing to move one. Wisniewski is Columbus seems ideal exept he has the same contract as Carle which is hard to take on. If we move Carle then it works but then we're going in circles replacing defenseman.

Yeah, I'm kind of bullish on moving Carle now. While I don't like his contract, moving him means replacing him, and unless someone makes an utterly moronic trade for him we're going to pay to move that contract.
 

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At the deadline:

Hedman-Stralman
Garrison-Rental
Carle-Gudas

If that rental is someone by the likes of Martin or Sekera our defense is cup-level ready. It'd be an elite top-4, while letting Gudas without making Gudas play over his head and allows us to shelter Carle.

Sustr/Barbs are not playoff material right now.

I can't see Pittsburgh trading Martin to a team they may face in the playoffs. If they move him at the deadline it's out west. Sekera is a big minute eater but I haven't seen enough of him to know how good he is. We have Carle to eat minutes so would want someone who'll make an impact and not just eat minutes. Not sure if it's him or the Canes this year but his numbers aren't eye popping. Sustr played his best hockey in the playoffs last year, no guarantee he steps up again but I'm not too concerned with him on the bottom pair in the playoffs.
 

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At the deadline:

Hedman-Stralman
Garrison-Rental
Carle-Gudas

If that rental is someone by the likes of Martin or Sekera our defense is cup-level ready. It'd be an elite top-4, while letting Gudas without making Gudas play over his head and allows us to shelter Carle.

Sustr/Barbs are not playoff material right now.

That's not a bad scenario if it plays out. We have more than enough ammo to land a rental without giving up any meaningful player.
 

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In all honesty, given that this is Brewer's contract year, I can't believe he got us a 3rd. This is more JedYzerman. Brewer basically got traded as a rental. Rentals don't fetch big returns these days. We were gonna lose him at the end of the year regardless. We wind up with a 3rd.

ADD: Did I read correctly that this is EDM's 3rd coming our way? Meaning a 61-65 pick? That's insanely good value on Brewer in a contract year.

Douglas Murray returned two 2nd's and Brewer is better then him. Veteran D hold decent value at the deadline. Not saying we could've done better holding onto him.

I think we got Edmonton's 3rd because we retained salary. Anaheim was also desperate which helped.
 

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Should be good for the Bolts and Brewer. Brewer had some good years for us and I wish him all the best. Brewer wants to play and the Ducks are a good team.
Steve Y is sticking to the young guys and I agree with it. It is tough with Hedman coming back and there is no one you really want to send down to AHL. Nice problem to have! Overall trading Brewer was a brilliant solution.
It can be re-valuated later as to the need to bring in a rental at the deadline now that we gained some cap.
 

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Douglas Murray returned two 2nd's and Brewer is better then him. Veteran D hold decent value at the deadline. Not saying we could've done better holding onto him.

I think we got Edmonton's 3rd because we retained salary. Anaheim was also desperate which helped.

I'll take a 3rd in this draft over 2 2nds in that draft any day.

As for those looking at the bigger picture and possibly picking up a rental dman. There honestly arent that many appealing options.

Top one IMO is Sekera but he will cost a ton and he's a lefty. Another "big name" guy is Mike Green, great puck moving righty but the defense not so much.

Teams that are gonna make the playoffs aren't going to trade top 4 guys. So guys like Martin won't be available.

Here's the list:

Irwin, Matt » D 26 SJS 11 2 1 3 4 -9 17.67
McBain, Jamie » D 26 LAK 8 1 2 3 0 0 11.88
Petry, Jeff » D 26 EDM 22 1 2 3 4 -13 20.19
Bartkowski, Matt » D 26 BOS 10 0 3 3 4 1 17.83
Bellemore, Brett » D 26 CAR 13 0 3 3 12 1 15.01
Holzer, Korbinian » D 26 TOR 1 0 0 0 0 2 17.83
Franson, Cody » D 27 TOR 20 3 11 14 8 7 20.20
Martinez, Alec » D 27 LAK 17 2 5 7 2 9 19.71
Staal, Marc » D 27 NYR 21 0 4 4 22 3 23.00
Schlemko, David » D 27 ARI 11 1 2 3 4 -3 17.02
Stollery, Karl » D 27 COL 1 0 0 0 0 1 12.48
Wilson, Ryan » D 27 COL 3 0 0 0 0 -3 11.21
Sekera, Andrej » D 28 CAR 20 0 8 8 4 -4 22.61
Prosser, Nate » D 28 MIN 17 1 1 2 6 -4 14.53
McQuaid, Adam » D 28 BOS 20 1 1 2 19 2 19.41
S.-Denis, F. » D 28 CBJ 4 0 1 1 0 -1 13.30
Butler, Chris » D 28 STL 2 0 0 0 7 0 11.65
Hillen, Jack » D 28 WAS 2 0 0 0 0 1 13.23
Diaz, Raphael » D 28 CGY 9 0 0 0 2 -2 11.75
Green, Mike » D 29 WAS 19 3 9 12 6 2 19.94
Hunwick, Matt » D 29 NYR 19 0 6 6 8 4 17.83
Meszaros, Andrej » D 29 BUF 16 0 3 3 18 -6 19.33
Kostka, Mike » D 29 NYR 7 0 1 1 0 1 15.39
Boychuk, Johnny » D 30 NYI 21 2 12 14 10 7 22.17
Strachan, Tyson » D 30 BUF 12 0 4 4 4 -1 18.65
Pardy, Adam » D 30 WPG 12 0 2 2 10 3 14.98
Benoit, Andre » D 30 BUF 15 0 0 0 8 -13 20.78
Michalek, Zbynek » D 31 ARI 23 0 5 5 2 -4 20.87
Gleason, Tim » D 31 CAR 19 1 3 4 17 -4 16.46
Colaiacovo, Carlo » D 31 PHI 5 0 2 2 4 2 16.48
Harrold, Peter » D 31 NJD 1 0 0 0 0 -2 19.70
Ehrhoff, C. » D 32 PIT 21 0 7 7 4 13 21.66
Schultz, Nick » D 32 PHI 20 0 5 5 14 4 18.91
Volchenkov, Anton » D 32 NSH 18 0 3 3 4 5 13.86
Ballard, Keith » D 32 MIN 10 0 1 1 21 -1 13.54
Martin, Paul » D 33 PIT 21 1 4 5 10 6 22.39
Jackman, Barret » D 33 STL 22 0 4 4 13 1 16.78
Oduya, Johnny » D 33 CHI 22 1 1 2 8 1 20.39
Beauchemin, F. » D 34 ANA 18 0 5 5 6 3 22.72
Regehr, Robyn » D 34 LAK 20 1 2 3 19 5 19.48
Leopold, Jordan » D 34 CBJ 12 1 1 2 4 -2 15.05
Allen, Bryan » D 34 MTL 8 0 1 1 4 -2 17.06
Brewer, Eric » D 35 ANA 17 0 4 4 18 5 17.84
Hannan, Scott » D 35 SJS 17 0 0 0 10 -1 16.04
Weaver, Mike » D 36 MTL 21 0 4 4 6 2 15.40
Hejda, Jan » D 36 COL 23 0 4 4 12 -3 21.33
Rozsival, Michal » D 36 CHI 13 0 1 1 4 2 16.16
Zidlicky, Marek » D 37 NJD 22 3 8 11 18 -2 21.58
Visnovsky, L. » D 38 NYI 16 1 5 6 0 5 20.58
Salvador, Bryce » D 38 NJD 15 0 2 2 20 -5 18.50
 

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Glad to see we got a high 3rd back from brewer. That is a solid payoff for an ageing player. We are loading up this draft. I have a feeling the scouts have been busy this season haha.

Good luck to Brewer. I hope he finds consistent ice time for the Ducks. At the least, he gets to stay in the warm weather.
 

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Who would you think we target? We had to give up a former top 5 pick so the price wasn't that cheap. Connolly could be the bait but we have no idea what type of value he truly holds.

We need to get a righty if we are going after someone. Those are in such high demand it's gonna be hard to find a team willing to move one. Wisniewski is Columbus seems ideal exept he has the same contract as Carle which is hard to take on. If we move Carle then it works but then we're going in circles replacing defenseman.

I don't know but non playoff teams will be looking to unload players.
 

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I can't see Pittsburgh trading Martin to a team they may face in the playoffs. If they move him at the deadline it's out west. Sekera is a big minute eater but I haven't seen enough of him to know how good he is. We have Carle to eat minutes so would want someone who'll make an impact and not just eat minutes. Not sure if it's him or the Canes this year but his numbers aren't eye popping. Sustr played his best hockey in the playoffs last year, no guarantee he steps up again but I'm not too concerned with him on the bottom pair in the playoffs.

Highly mobile defenseman with good hockey IQ, consistant at both ends of the ice, Carolina is leaving him and Faulk out to dry this year. Not saying we should pay an arm and a leg for him but he would be a great upgrade on our defense.

Also, this is pretty boss. Team down 0-5 none the less. He would be required to wear another number none the less ;)
 

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Highly mobile defenseman with good hockey IQ, consistant at both ends of the ice, Carolina is leaving him and Faulk out to dry this year. Not saying we should pay an arm and a leg for him but he would be a great upgrade on our defense.

Also, this is pretty boss. Team down 0-5 none the less. He would be required to wear another number none the less ;)


Wow i don't know after watching that he might be worth an arm and a leg.
 

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There are very literally MAYBE 5 rental players that are worth even a look at targeting, that will actually probably be available. The good news is of those 5, 4 are right shots.

Sekera- Lefty
Petry- Righty
Franson- Righty
Green- Righty
Michalek- Righty

Everything else is either garbage, on a team that will be in the playoffs, or both.
 

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