Proposal: Ana needs 1st line LW

[topshelf15]

Yup i can't remember to many times when you had this many top RFAs still left unsigned like Ristolainen, Lindholm, Trouba and Gaudreau still left unsigned by training camp. Still have to agree that Anaheim will do something here once the worlds are over. They've tons of D and could use a top 6 LW and Detroit has tons of forwards and could use a top 4 LHD/RHD still think that Anaheim and Detroit make good trading partners here. Something around Tatar+ makes tons of sense for Cam Fowler.

Detroit is and has been bush sitting all off season I think they are trying to get blueline help for sure

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

correct me if im wrong but i get the impression the owners are somewhat tight fisted with their cash. they have an internal cap which is obviously below the salary cap. they strike me as the type then who would not be buying people out to go sit at home no ?

Do the math. Bieksa's last year is $4M. A buyout costs appx $2.6M plus the cost of his roster replacement. His replacement will be either an ELC guy or a #7 NHL guy, neither of which will cost more than $1M. 2.6+1.0=3.6.

3.6<4.0.......There is no dollar cost to buying out Bieksa if he refuses to waive.

 

[glenbuis]

Do the math. Bieksa's last year is $4M. A buyout costs appx $2.6M plus the cost of his roster replacement. His replacement will be either an ELC guy or a #7 NHL guy, neither of which will cost more than $1M. 2.6+1.0=3.6.

3.6<4.0.......There is no dollar cost to buying out Bieksa if he refuses to waive.

except the owner is paying more for less.

 

[dracom]

except the owner is paying more for less.

The Ducks have bought out and retained salary before. They are fine with doing it if it helps the team. The Ducks are still saving money per season if they buyout Bieksa, while they also get to protect a better defensemen from the draft.

 

[btlaffin]

Detroit is and has been bush sitting all off season I think they are trying to get blueline help for sure

Don't let it fool you. I'm pretty sure that is just 'The Ken Holland Summer.'

 

[glenbuis]

The Ducks have bought out and retained salary before. They are fine with doing it if it helps the team. The Ducks are still saving money per season if they buyout Bieksa, while they also get to protect a better defensemen from the draft.

what is there internal cap by the way ? they have so many solid core pieces to contend for the cup every year. it would be frustrating to see them not get that one or two extra guys to put you over the top.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

except the owner is paying more for less.

Check your math. 3.6 is not more than 4.0. Your argument was based on budget, not talent. And it's borderline debatable that the Ducks would be any worse off in that scenario. But even if you were right that they were worse off, it would be a tiny bit worse off for the sake of protecting one more, much better player.

The Ducks will not keep Bieksa and protect him. You can make book on that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

what is there internal cap by the way ? they have so many solid core pieces to contend for the cup every year. it would be frustrating to see them not get that one or two extra guys to put you over the top.

Its very annoying to be so close but not able to make those small moves to put us over the top.

Things like if we were able to keep palms beleskey and beauchmin... I feel like if we had beauchmin we would have beatin Chicago... if we had palms and beleskey last season against Nashville(or any team in the west) there is a good chance we are playing pitt for the cup too.

tough to be a fan and know your close and have room to spend to make the team better but cant be used.

 

[dracom]

Its very annoying to be so close but not able to make those small moves to put us over the top.

Things like if we were able to keep palms beleskey and beauchmin... I feel like if we had beauchmin we would have beatin Chicago... if we had palms and beleskey last season against Nashville(or any team in the west) there is a good chance we are playing pitt for the cup too.

tough to be a fan and know your close and have room to spend to make the team better but cant be used.

Uh, we did and he was terrible. Honestly, he's only a slight upgrade over Bieksa. Palms would have been useless like he was for us previously in the playoffs. Beleskey would have been nice to have though.

 

[Avs44]

Its very annoying to be so close but not able to make those small moves to put us over the top.

Things like if we were able to keep palms beleskey and beauchmin... I feel like if we had beauchmin we would have beatin Chicago... if we had palms and beleskey last season against Nashville(or any team in the west) there is a good chance we are playing pitt for the cup too.

tough to be a fan and know your close and have room to spend to make the team better but cant be used.

I don't buy blaming that on the owners. That falls on the incompetency of Murray in the past year. He's paying Bieksa 500k less than Beauchemin is making with the Avs right now...is that 500k your owners being cheap? Or was it Murray deciding he wanted to switch things up (Bieksa had a year left on his deal when he was traded for earning 100k more than Beauch now) and turning out to be very wrong? Or what about dumping 3.25 million on Clayton Stoner? Or inexplicably trading Maroon for a meagre return, to a division rival, at a position of need, AND retaining salary? I'm sure not having owners willing to spend more sucks, but Murray has done a lot of stupid things with the money he has been given (over 7 million on Stoner and Bieksa combined is inexcusable for any team that needs to watch its pennies).

 

[go4hockey]

Bieksa for D.Brown! Ducks don't have to protect Bieksa in the expansion draft, he may waive his NTC to move down the freeway. Kings can protect 4D as they don't have more then 4 forwards they need to protect.

How is this bad?

As a King fan it's all good but no way in hell Ana would help us out by taking Browns contract for 6 more years.

 

[mike30]

cammalieri?

 

[Brock Radunske]

Are trade chips are:
Fowler
Stoner
Bieksa
Young Prospect Player

Trade chips?
More like turd-flavoured chips...

 

[go4hockey]

Marchand for Lindholm+Theodore

They wouldn't do it straight up for Lindholm and you think they are adding in Theo. This is bad for the Ducks and could awful if Marchand walked after his contract is up. Terrible offer.

 

[ManofSteel55]

We are not trading Ritchie

No, I meant just play Nick Ritchie with Getzlaf and Perry.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

They wouldn't do it straight up for Lindholm and you think they are adding in Theo. This is bad for the Ducks and could awful if Marchand walked after his contract is up. Terrible offer.

Not even sure id do Theodore straight up for him, hes a FA and very unlikely we can afford specially with a team like vegas in the market. Not to mention the cost and what not lol just a terrible offer.

 

[duxfan8]

cammalieri?

I wouldn't mind calamari if he was only signed through this year or even next, but 3 years at 5mil would be a tough pill to swallow for the ducks budget. BM is going to have to work some magic in getting a young forward who is controllable for years to come.

 

[JetsFan815]

To Anaheim:
Kyle Connor
Marko Dano

To WPG:
Hampus Lindholm

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Detroit is and has been bush sitting all off season I think they are trying to get blueline help for sure

I don't take much stock that Holland will add a blueliner, I think he just adds Ouellet to the roster as the 7th D-man and calls it a day.

 

[mpp9]

Is this assuming Getzlaf and Perry are on separate lines? If those two can't carry a third wheel bottom six type player, they've declined pretty fast.

 

[jacks*]

Absolutely brutal value for the Ducks. Take out Rakell and they still shouldn't do it.

Take out Rakell and the Habs laugh and walk away.

 

[vipernsx]

As a Leafs fan I won't mention the obvious ... cause

Seriously....1st line forwards cost $$$, Ducks have no $$$, Ducks still need a first line LW.

Their solution will come internally, because that's how the Ducks roll. If they don't have one internally, then they won't have one. Not much has changed, just another year where fans want Getz & Perry to have that perfect partner, but truth is, they don't need it because once you have PB&J the bread really doesn't matter.

 

[dracom]

To Anaheim:
Kyle Connor
Marko Dano

To WPG:
Hampus Lindholm

Terrible offer. A meh player and a complete question mark for a proven top young defensemen? Ducks laugh and block the number. Plus, you should probably focus on your own RFA defensemen.

 

[BatVader]

Honestly, I think TO is a good trade partner for the Ducks.
JVR would fit their need and the Leafs need D, which Anaheim has.
Only issue I see is whether JVR could survive the more physical Western Conference.

 

[crowi]

To Anaheim:
Kyle Connor
Marko Dano

To WPG:
Hampus Lindholm

Look at your profile pic and then apply it to this offer.