I understand +\- isn’t the best statistic but when you’re a -21 in 19 games + not producing and the next worst on the team is a -13 then you’re clearly doing something wrong. I don’t know why you have to be condescending about it.Damn... I didn't know you had his current-season +/- in your back pocket.
How can I possibly respond...?
Seems like you're evaluating him based on a 20 game statistical sample. Given his age & style, his career AHL production is nothing to look down your nose at. Plus, he plays the game in a way that some guys just aren't willing to do.
Smith is a call-up/extra forward, probably never an everyday player, but he can still improve and make himself into a more useful depth option.
Even then he wouldn't be my first call as a 22nd forward (13 on a roster and assuming the 8 injuries like you said). He gets WAY too much latitude for people who want anyone with any remote ounce of physicality. He's just not a good NHL player. Great hockey player, probably a good guy but who knows, but not NHL caliber in any way.Here is my take on Smith as a Wings fan. He is pretty bad at most hockey skills, below average and inconsistent hitter, and while he is willing to drop the gloves, he isn't really good at it, as he usually loses pretty quickly in most fights. Even with the fighting his willingness for the physical side of the game is very inconsistent which is why he couldn't even keep a spot on our team last year, and even with the boatload of injuries this year, he still only got 2 games in this year.
I think at best, he is an AHL forward, and should only be in the NHL, IF you have about 4-8 forwards out with injury.
Even then he wouldn't be my first call as a 22nd forward (13 on a roster and assuming the 8 injuries like you said). He gets WAY too much latitude for people who want anyone with any remote ounce of physicality. He's just not a good NHL player. Great hockey player, probably a good guy but who knows, but not NHL caliber in any way.
People want to give the benefit of the doubt to "tough" guys. It's the same reason why so many Wings fans had a love affair with Mitch f***ing Callahan and wanted to paint him into every opening night lineup. You're better signing some rando available UFA than Givani Smith. Sucks that he's not good because we used a 2nd on him, but he's just not.
I have used that website for literally YEARS and never knew that...this is almost as big as the day i learned you can click on the headshots of players in hockeydb to see their pics through time
Maybe his brother could teach him something. Quite the AHL player.He’s got the worst +\- on his team by far, like pretty close to double as bad as the next guy. That’s pretty remarkable and very hard to do
You're goodI'm guessing Regan was with and us. I didn't even know we had him.
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O'Regan was with Anaheim. Del Zotto came from Florida