Post-Game Talk: An OK start

[GOilers88]

To be fair- the analytics group looks at larger sample sizes vs just one game

Some do. A lot of people on HF like to really pick and choose their samples to fit whatever narrative it is they want to push though.

Arbitrary lines everywhere.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

I'm sure after the first bad game they'll be out in full force, and then ignore the good ones again.

@CycloneSweep @KeithIsJustOkay

 

[foshizzle]

Growth and how those chances went in are very, very important.

Yep- they are. Getting outplayed when you are up by two, not pushing back when they crawl back within 1. 1 shot away from it being tied and just waiting for a bad break. Weak one goes in.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

Sounds like you’re talking about current Oiler Russell aka The Starfish

Couldn't really tell Russell and Larsson apart for most of the time Larsson was here lmfao
He was trash for 2.5 years

 

[Cloned]

Yep- they are. Getting outplayed when you are up by two, not pushing back when they crawl back within 1. 1 shot away from it being tied and just waiting for a bad break. Weak one goes in.

They weren't outplayed in the third. They didn't give up many high danger chances at all, and played pretty much exactly how Tippett wants them to play (minus the stupid penalties).

Now, if you disagree with how Tippett wants to play, that's an argument I'd agree with you on.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

Yeah the Barrie comments are ridiculous. Seems like he's a player that people like to slam. Not sure what it is really. Vast majority of this board were saying he was just here to milk a contract. Now they've just moved onto different angles like oh the leading D points player in the league sucks..

In the running for dumbest fanbase, honestly.
Pisses me off that we can't just appreciate finally having an elite offensive D

 

[foshizzle]

Some do. A lot of people on HF like to really pick and choose their samples to fit whatever narrative it is they want to push though.

Arbitrary lines everywhere.

That is completely false. Folks who are analytics driven know that 1 game doesn’t mean anything and use larger sample sizes. They are purely data driven. Those who voice opinions usually don’t have the data and are more driven by confirmation bias. It’s not fair to lump the two together

 

[CycloneSweep]

@CycloneSweep @KeithIsJustOkay

Are you just intentionally trying to start fights/be a dick now?

 

[foshizzle]

They weren't outplayed in the third. They didn't give up many high danger chances at all, and played pretty much exactly how Tippett wants them to play (minus the stupid penalties).

Now, if you disagree with how Tippett wants to play, that's an argument I'd agree with you on.

Oh on Tippett we agree 100%

 

[CycloneSweep]

That is completely false. Folks who are analytics driven know that 1 game doesn’t mean anything and use larger sample sizes. They are purely data driven. Those who voice opinions usually don’t have the data and are more driven by confirmation bias. It’s not fair to lump the two together

After literally one game we have people going “haha Larsson sucks, Ceci is 100x better LOL”
And trying to throw it in peoples faces.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Not really. Growth and how you got those two points are very, very important.

ah yes, moral victories

also ITS GAME 1!

 

[CycloneSweep]

Notice how happy the long term guys here were. Leon, Connor and Nuge were pumped and super happy for Hyman. They have to be thrilled to have a player of his caliber joining them after years of not having much of a supporting cast.

He seems to be happier here than he was in Toronto. Honestly a change of scenery can be everything a player needs.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

Are you just intentionally trying to start fights/be a dick now?

Nah just know that if Keith or Ceci were to have had a "bad" game, you'd be all over that. But no props when they do well.

 

[Cloned]

He seems to be happier here than he was in Toronto. Honestly a change of scenery can be everything a player needs.

He's pretty close friends with Matthews apparently. I'm gonna LMAO if Matthews signs in Edmonton after his current contract.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

On another note, we (including myself) all wanted Mrazek and look at him getting lit up. Koskinen might very well be better..

 

[CycloneSweep]

Nah just know that if Keith or Ceci were to have had a "bad" game, you'd be all over that. But no props when they do well.

I said I thought Ceci and Keith looked fine last night. Some of you are overreacting and thinking they were great last night. And again I have never said Keith is a bad player. I said Keith had a bad season last year and should do better this year. I’ve said it from the start.

 

[D4ngleSZN]

He's pretty close friends with Matthews apparently. I'm gonna LMAO if Matthews signs in Edmonton after his current contract.

If only we didn't blow up all our cap space lol

 

[D4ngleSZN]

Hyman is great but Nuge isn't a good enough passer/playmaker for Hyman to produce IMO. It'll be a lot of wasted energy with no execution/production. He really needs to play with either Drai or Mcdavid.

 

[CycloneSweep]

He's pretty close friends with Matthews apparently. I'm gonna LMAO if Matthews signs in Edmonton after his current contract.

That would be wild.
I loved when he was talking to Nuge after the goal and said something like “that easy?” And Nuge was like “oh yeah” lol

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

If only we didn't blow up all our cap space lol

Offer him the hossa 1mil 1 year to win a cup lol

 

[Cloned]

If only we didn't blow up all our cap space lol

Maybe he'll take a friendly discount to play with his friend.

 

[Cloned]

I said I thought Ceci and Keith looked fine last night. Some of you are overreacting and thinking they were great last night. And again I have never said Keith is a bad player. I said Keith had a bad season last year and should do better this year. I’ve said it from the start.

To be fair, they looked really good last night.

And I was one of the biggest critics of the Keith trade. I thought the Ceci signing was alright, but I was disappointed with his play in the preseason.

So for both of them to look as good as they did last night is a BIG surprise for me. Ceci played like Pietrangelo last night, he was that good. And Keith looked like he turned the clock back about 7 years lol.

 

[MessierII]

Offer him the hossa 1mil 1 year to win a cup lol

That was one year 10 mil

 

[WaitingForUser]

In the running for dumbest fanbase, honestly.
Pisses me off that we can't just appreciate finally having an elite offensive D

Never could something inherent in Edmonton to hate on pure Offensive D men goes way way back.

which IMO is complete BS

 

[McBooya42]

I think Barrie will be traded as soon as this upcoming off season.

He's easily the most likely player on our roster making significant $ that could conceivably be traded to someone with little to no cap coming back.

Half of our top pairing on a sweet-heart deal...yeah he's gone as soon as they can get rid of him.