William H Bonney
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Little viewings but I liked Brindley a lot more than Lucius. It's a really deep group though, so no easy task to make this team.
American Prospect Update Thread - Part 4
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William H Bonney
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Nothing to do with Kaplan but taking 13 forwards is such a dumb development decision. It's not hard for the NTDP to get temporary replacement players as needed due to injuries. Why you'd want a top player getting 13th forward minutes for an entire season is beyond me.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Wroblewski has always been very good about rotating the lines, and not putting anyone in a 13th forward slot for too long.
Appert will coach this team, if they do the usual rotation. He tends to play his best players more with more set lines and pairs, although this season he rotated more often than I've seen him rotate in the past.
If he rotates, I don't see anyone it being a big problem where there's one player who isn't taking a regular shift.
that could very well be the exact team, or close to it. to echo others, the only ones i would question are borgesi, kaplan & brindley being omitted - that would surprise me. would think borgesi over muir, then the two forwards added on (thus one of the listed guys above don't make it - getting the number to 13)
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They could still be tinkering with the roster, but the early word was Behrens.
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tealhockey
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yeah borgesi is another good one. always a few good players that don't crack these teams tho
William H Bonney
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Not sure having three tiny defenseman (Duke, Hutson, Borgesi) would be sound.
William H Bonney
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No, I just meant the folks posting that they want Borgesi on the team in addition to Hutson and Duke.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I've only seen a few games, but I didn't think Duke looks like a small defenseman. He looked taller than his EP listing.
tealhockey
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From video (and live viewing), we can call him undersized for sure
Pavel Buchnevich
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Looked around 6'0 to me. Is that undersized for a 15 year old? I could be wrong. I've only seen him play a few times.
William H Bonney
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Duke is definitely short. He was listed at 5'7 by USAH at the YOG and that looked accurate as he was clearly one of the shortest guys out there. To his credit he doesn't play small though, similar to a guy like Krug.
Differences in listed height/weights between YOG roster and most current listing:
YOG roster
Vinny Borgesi (5'6", 132 lbs)
Hunter Brzustewicz (5'9", 171 lbs)
Seamus Casey (5'9", 135 lbs)
Ryan Chesley (6'1", 170 lbs)
Tyler Duke (5'7", 155 lbs)
Lane Hutson (5'5", 120 lbs)
Current
Vinny Borgesi (5'10", 146 lbs)
Hunter Brzustewicz (5'9", 170 lbs)
Seamus Casey (5'10", 150 lbs)
Ryan Chesley (6'1", 176 lbs)
Tyler Duke (5'10", 165 lbs)
Lane Hutson (5'7", 130 lbs)
Could be getting some inflated numbers. Could also be that boys in their mid-teens grow.
YOG roster
Vinny Borgesi (5'6", 132 lbs)
Hunter Brzustewicz (5'9", 171 lbs)
Seamus Casey (5'9", 135 lbs)
Ryan Chesley (6'1", 170 lbs)
Tyler Duke (5'7", 155 lbs)
Lane Hutson (5'5", 120 lbs)
Current
Vinny Borgesi (5'10", 146 lbs)
Hunter Brzustewicz (5'9", 170 lbs)
Seamus Casey (5'10", 150 lbs)
Ryan Chesley (6'1", 176 lbs)
Tyler Duke (5'10", 165 lbs)
Lane Hutson (5'7", 130 lbs)
Could be getting some inflated numbers. Could also be that boys in their mid-teens grow.
tealhockey
@overtheboards
He definitely did not look anywhere near 6'0 to me, kids grow and he doesn't play tiny though
William H Bonney
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The Olympic stats are much more accurate than the Elite Prospect stats.
From tournament playbooks this year I have:
Borgesi 5'7"
Brzustewicz 5'10"
Casey 5'9"
Chesley 6'1"
Duke 5'7"
Hutson 5'6
Leddy 6'2"
Powell 5'11"
Muir 6'
I have met and stood next to all but Chesley, Powell and Muir.
yup just came here to post it. Very interested to see if a reason comes out as to why he's not on this team. First hand i can't say, but just from reading several sources Pierre seems to be one of the top americans in his age group.
https://twitter.com/USHL/status/1243282212310654981
William H Bonney
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Has anyone seen Cole Spicer play? Stats aren't everything - choose from innumerable examples to prove the point - but his stats this season certainly beg the question:
I suggest you read the full article from Brad Schlossman on Spicer's background and road to the NTDP.
That Honeybaked team was absolutely loaded but it's still pretty insane, especially given Nazar's caliber as a prospect. And even if you grant Nazar his PPG average to make up for the games played difference (Nazar at YOG), it's still a 23 point gap between the two.
Is Spicer a legit high-end prospect? Or more one of those guys that thrives at lower levels with quality teammates but doesn't have the tools to transfer that success as the competition gets better?
I suggest you read the full article from Brad Schlossman on Spicer's background and road to the NTDP.
That Honeybaked team was absolutely loaded but it's still pretty insane, especially given Nazar's caliber as a prospect. And even if you grant Nazar his PPG average to make up for the games played difference (Nazar at YOG), it's still a 23 point gap between the two.
Is Spicer a legit high-end prospect? Or more one of those guys that thrives at lower levels with quality teammates but doesn't have the tools to transfer that success as the competition gets better?
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