All Purpose Trade / Roster Building Thread - start of 2021 season edition
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WreckingCrew
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TRADE EVERYONE...I mean, it's mid-January and we haven't won a single game yet
MrazeksVengeance
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Yet we lead the division. (Alphabet for the win.)
AhosDatsyukian
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What does anyone know about Evgeny Svechnikov? Former 1st round pick, has dealt with many injuries and never gotten much of a chance, obviously has a notable family member here. Waived by Detroit today. Not sure we have a spot but could he be worth a look?
TheReelChuckFletcher
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Derek Ryan is on waivers. Canes better claim him before Peters sends an agent from Russia.
Seems to me that if you can’t make the worst team in the league...
It depends on whether they think they can pass him through waivers again to the taxi squad. If they can, he's interesting, moreso looking ahead to 21-22. They'll need a cheap body or two after the surgery that will be done on the 4th line to make the cap work next season.
If not, it's probably a waste. The forward group runs 13 deep already. Nearly $875k for a scratch is not a great use of the limited cap space the team has. Save and grow it for the deadline.
spockBokk
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Wasn’t CAR rumored to be interested in Corey Perry? Could be an interesting player, but really room for him.
I could potentially see them putting in a claim on a D that they feel could pass through waivers again to replace what they lost in Forsling and what they may now lose in Ryan.
I could potentially see them putting in a claim on a D that they feel could pass through waivers again to replace what they lost in Forsling and what they may now lose in Ryan.
Justshootmore
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Exactly. To me it seems like he is not skilled enough (yet) to play top6 but his style also doesn’t make him a good bottom6 player.
Unless there is some Sedin-like chemistry between Andrei and him, it wouldn’t make much sense to claim him.
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That's possible. They'd need to find a defenseman that the team that originally that waived him doesn't really want. Otherwise, if the Canes waive him, and that team claims him (and nobody else does), that team won't need to waive him again to send him down. No idea which d-men might fall into that category.
Maybe if Florida picks up another defenseman, it could be Forsling.
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This was basically the last shot for Svechnikov to stick in Detroit and I swear I heard he got injured in camp yet again.
If Florida waives him because he was beat out by the other guy they just claimed, then this makes the most sense.
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spockBokk
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Why would Svechnikov sign before next offseason? Like every other high-profile RFA, he’s betting on himself. To a lesser and also somewhat scarier extent, why would Hamilton sign before then as well?
In Hamilton’s case, I’d say he’s signed by the deadline or shipped out of town. In Svechnikov’s case, I’ll just hope they learned from whole Aho l’offre hostile ordeal and they aren’t as hardassed as they were then in negotiations.
In Hamilton’s case, I’d say he’s signed by the deadline or shipped out of town. In Svechnikov’s case, I’ll just hope they learned from whole Aho l’offre hostile ordeal and they aren’t as hardassed as they were then in negotiations.
WreckingCrew
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Not only this but given the unknowns from COVID the hope would be the cap and financial landscape would improve...teams WANT to sign players but likely can't offer full value right now. Agreed on Doogie also
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The only thing that really concerns me about the borg is their ability to negotiate with high profile UFA/RFAs. Their first test with Aho ultimately worked out due to the incompetency of the Habs but it still doesn't inspire much confidence there.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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My biggest fear is losing Hamilton for nothing. I don't find that to be likely considering how quickly the FO handled the Skinner, Faulk, Haula, and Eddy situations and received assets in return. Still, though, my fear is certainly there.
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My biggest fear is them offering something Pejorative Slured like they did to Aho where it devolves into some moron GM like Bergevin gumming up the whole process. Aho's contract has always been seen as more than fair but it should be 2-3 years longer than it is, but we royally f***ed it up over I don't even know what.
Nikishin Go Boom
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Are we sure that Aho didn’t want 8 years? Maybe he, like Matthews, wanted a shot at the new tv money.
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Uh, it's obvious he didn't want much longer than 5 years especially at whatever we were offering him. But that doesn't really mean much, there were many scenarios in between what he ultimately signed for. But the fact we let it get to the point where he signed one of the weakest offer sheets of all time is what I'm talking about. Legitimately how bad were our offers to get him to sign this? We've already had this conversation before here ad nauseum.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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At Day 1 of free agency, mind you. Most high-tension situations tend to drag on until the start of the season. This one didn't. It basically ended the same time as when it began because Bergevin was an idiot. People forget the pre-COVID situation, but there was a lot of optimism among players and agents at the time because of that new TV contract. Aho and Matthews weren't the only folks trying to get to UFA ASAP. Many of them, including Laine and Point, simply settled for bridges.
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He did. It isn't the first time either.
I went to look up his stats and what was surprising to me is that he's only played 20 games in the NHL.
Maybe this is just me not overthinking it, but unlike most of the RFA’s in his class, he didn’t want to spend his entire offseason in contract negotiations. To me it was a simple case of he wanted what he wanted, and he took the path of least resistance when a team offered him what he wanted. Ironic thing is most top RFA’s ended up doing bridge deals for much cheaper, which would’ve been more ideal for us. I just hated the narrative that offseason because other teams actually got to negotiate with their players, but when we do it we’re labeled as too cheap.
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