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Pre-Game Talk: All Purpose Off Day Thread | Ruhwedel to W-B/S for Conditioning

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vodeni said:
....and if you want to make three decent lines then move Kessel to third with Brass, get Rust with Geno and pray that someone clicks on that LW3line, fourth line at this point is non existent and I can't see anything good from bunch of Grants, Wilsons, Sheahans, etc...
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Problem is that Rust is the LW I'd want with Brass and Kessel long term.
 

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if Horny can go back with Sid, I'd try Simon at LW with Brass and Kessel.

Then Rust needs to be with Sid or Geno, or we need to find another wing. Or Sprong obviously.
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I could live with Simon-Brassard-Kessel getting a shot.

Also I really like Rust with Brassard. Really do. I think Brassard likes playing alongside buzzsaws and I think they've got good chemistry. Just ideally needs a more handsy winger than Rust on the line.
 
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I still think this team needs another legit top-9 LWer, and I'm not sold on Simon being a legit top-9 player. Is Simon an actual top-9 player or just someone who fits well with Crosby? I'm not sure we have an answer to that yet.

Simon has been pretty disappointing when not with Crosby this year. People criticized Sheary as being solely a product of Crosby, I'm not sure Simon actually isn't that.
 
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Peat said:
I could live with Simon-Brassard-Kessel getting a shot.

Also I really like Rust with Brassard. Really do. I think Brassard likes playing alongside buzzsaws and I think they've got good chemistry. Just ideally needs a more handsy winger than Rust on the line.
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yeah, sadly we don't really have a spare one of those at LW. Simon is again the best option, assuming we aren't splitting up Jake and Sid.
 
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When Horny comes back, here is the lineup I wish we'd see. Emphasis on wish.

Jake Sid Horny
TP Geno Phil
Simon Brass Sprong
DiPauli Blueger Rust
RS

You could swap Simon and DiPauli but I think this line might help get Rusty out of his funk.
 
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I'm curious if JR even sees the defense as one of the issues. His fixes seem to be focused on the forwards (not that I'm complaining), but does he also see upgrading the defense as a priority?
 

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yeah, sadly we don't really have a spare one of those at LW. Simon is again the best option, assuming we aren't splitting up Jake and Sid.
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Yup.

I'd be kinda curious to see Blueger or Johnson get a chance in such a role based on limited viewings, but I know I'm wishing for a lot there.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
I still think this team needs another legit top-9 LWer, and I'm not sold on Simon being a legit top-9 player. Is Simon an actual top-9 player or just someone who fits well with Crosby? I'm not sure we have an answer to that yet.

Simon has been pretty disappointing when not with Crosby this year. People criticized Sheary as being solely a product of Crosby, I'm not sure Simon actually isn't that.
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He has still produced. 5 points away from Sid, 6 points with Sid. Had some good games with Brassard and some average ones. It doesn’t help that everyone else in the bottom 6 sans Brass hasn’t been great. He’s actually a ‘safe’ player who can produce at the moment.
 
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He has still produced. 5 points away from Sid, 6 points with Sid. Had some good games with Brassard and some average ones. It doesn’t help that everyone else in the bottom 6 sans Brass hasn’t been great. He’s actually a ‘safe’ player who can produce at the moment.
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The problem is that like 4 of those points away from Crosby came in the first couple games on the season. He had 4 points in the first 8 games without Crosby, but has only 1 point (and has only been on the ice for 1 goal) in 14 games since the Calgary game away from Crosby.
 
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The problem is that like 4 of those points away from Crosby came in the first couple games on the season. He had 4 points in the first 8 games without Crosby, but has only 1 point (and has only been on the ice for 1 goal) in 14 games since the Calgary game away from Crosby.
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he definitely went cold. I'd be curious to see him tried somewhere else when Horny comes back if he's still playing well.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
The problem is that like 4 of those points away from Crosby came in the first couple games on the season. He had 4 points in the first 8 games without Crosby, but has only 1 point (and has only been on the ice for 1 goal) in 14 games since the Calgary game away from Crosby.
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He still looks alright for the most part and his lines don’t get scored on much. He’s not a driver of a line and he’s more set up guy, puck retriever than a guy who puts it in the net. That’s the problem because no one in the bottom 6 can get a goal.
 
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Peat said:
Yup.

I'd be kinda curious to see Blueger or Johnson get a chance in such a role based on limited viewings, but I know I'm wishing for a lot there.
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Johnson would be exactly what we need for 3LW. I really hope he pans out.

ETA I just noticed that he has the worst +/- on the team, so take from that what you will. He hasn't had a great start and I think DiPauli has produced more than him thus far. So that, in addition to him needing to get stronger, makes me think he isn't on the short list of call ups right now.
 
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Yup.

I'd be kinda curious to see Blueger or Johnson get a chance in such a role based on limited viewings, but I know I'm wishing for a lot there.
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I don’t know how they don’t try it if we keep losing, but if we keep losing we are out of the playoff picture.

I think it is obvious this org feels super awkward about how they treated Pouliot.

Which is dumb.
 

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I don’t know how they don’t try it if we keep losing, but if we keep losing we are out of the playoff picture.

I think it is obvious this org feels super awkward about how they treated Pouliot.

Which is dumb.
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I'm being dumb - how is the Pouliot thing connected here?
 

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pixiesfanyo said:
It’s been cited time and time again the org feels they “rushed him”.
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So you're saying that Blueger/Johnson/etc.etc. not getting a chance right now is built out of a desire not to rush them, maybe not pitch them into a bad environment for their first time?
 
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