Post-Game Talk: All Good Things Must Come To An End

[KlefDown]

Hey man...we are both frusterated. So is everyone else.
Posters (fans) are wrong all the time primarily because we get emotional.

I'll just say that the goalie coach is way down the list of potential problems with this team.
The issues were on full display last night....poor defensive reads...poor effort....a complete and total lack of resiliency...very poorly designed roster (built form the front to the back).....poor goaltending is in the mix too. The roster (including the goalies) isnt good enough.
No amount of coaching is going to make Skiner and Campbell playoff quality goalies.

I'll just say this...if you think that the goalie coach is at the top of the list then we shall just have to agree to disagree.

did you not read the first post you replied to me to???

on-ice is an issue but if we don't fix whats rotten in the management, the cycle will repeat again. Its already happened when we hired Holland after Chiarelli and it will happen again. It doesn't take a genius to know that

 

[Wreckus]

 

[Oilers333]

Wow send down one AHL goalie for another AHL goalie. What a plan, what a plan.

 

[Duke74]

Sadly, it's also exposing Draisaitl a bit. Great player obviously but without McDavid driving the engine, he's struggling. It just shows that a player like MacKinnon is a cut above.

Which is strange because any time McDavid has missed time, Draisaitl has stepped up. I'm not sure what's different this time. Maybe resignation on his part? Maybe a hidden injury? Maybe he's peaked and his best days are behind him at 28? Who knows.

 

[BlackDogg]

Should send them both down.

 

[guymez]

did you not read the first post you replied to me to???

on-ice is an issue but if we don't fix whats rotten in the management, the cycle will repeat again. Its already happened when we hired Holland after Chiarelli and it will happen again. It doesn't take a genius to know that

I agree that these things need to be fixed.
I have been holding Hollands feet to the fire long before this season.
He has screwed this team IMO. The fault lies with him.
That said...they are not going to disgrace him. Its just not going to happen. He will retire...likley at the end of the season. At least officially.
I could see Jackson running the team in the background with Holland as the figurehead just so he (and the team) can maintain a sense of dignity.

 

[McHelpus]

So your contention is that the goalie coach has wrecked every single goalie and these goalies (who had their games wrecked) never said a word about it.
Doesnt make sense to me at all.

Wasn't the year Mike Smith had best save % when he dropped Schwartz and used a private coach?

At some point when every goalie fails you need to hire someone new.

 

[KCC]

Wow send down one AHL goalie for another AHL goalie. What a plan, what a plan.

Pointless once edm’s goaltending coach gets ahold of him. Lol. That said goaltending is def killing this team. last night was a perfect example. Even averaging goaltending might be enough to string together some wins and maybe gain some confidence back wouldn’t hold my breath though. The team will just find other ways to lose I’m sure. Lol

 

[guymez]

This is a good move and not necesasarily because Pickard is the long term answer. He could actually play excllent on adrenaline for a few games though which would be very helpful.

It is a move that will get the entire teams attention. The only thing that Campbell brings to this team are cap issues so having him ( a player who has largely failed this team since he arrived) take the fall and shake up the team at least makes the team accountable.
I am fine with this.

 

[Oilers333]

Pointless once edm’s goaltending coach gets ahold of him. Lol. That said goaltending is def killing this team. last night was a perfect example. Even averaging goaltending might be enough to string together some wins and maybe gain some confidence back wouldn’t hold my breath though. The team will just find other ways to lose I’m sure. Lol

I got excited for a second and though maybe a massive trade was happening for an actual NHL goalie. Should have known the actual plan was to swap pennies for pennies. Pickard wont be much better if any better. But heres hoping I guess lol. What a disaster. Trade Draisaitl. Enter a re-tool phase and hope Mcdavid resigns and we can contend in 5 years.

 

[guymez]

Wasn't the year Mike Smith had best save % when he dropped Schwartz and used a private coach?

At some point when every goalie fails you need to hire someone new.

I dont think that Smith ever dropped Schwartz. I heard that he just brought his guy with him.

 

[KlefDown]

got away from Schwartz, look at him thriving

 

[larek]

Losing to an AHL roster would officially be rock bottom. There's no rebounding from that. People need to start losing jobs if that's the case.

I meant there is no way that Oilers lose this game -- No Way!!

 

[MoneyGuy]

I don’t understand how a team with two of the, say, 10 top players in the league and one that has done well in playoffs the last two seasons can be so bad. If they lose this next game, look out.

 

[GMofOilers]

So Skinner will get the start against the Sharks, yup we will lose it for sure

 

[mkatcherin00]

So Skinner will get the start against the Sharks, yup we will lose it for sure

I personally hope he gets lit the f*** up lol

 

[CycloneSweep]

I don’t understand how a team with two of the, say, 10 top players in the league and one that has done well in playoffs the last two seasons can be so bad. If they lose this next game, look out.

Neither Draisaitl or McDavid look even close to top 10 players right now.
Arguably McDavid isn't even a top 10 player on our team.
Here is McDavids fancy stats righ tnow
2.89 xGF/60 (17th on the f***ing team)
2.77 xGA/60 (15th on the team)
51 xGF% (20th on the team...only Erne and Hamblin are worse)

Now for everyone who hates expected numbers...
2.1 GF/60 (12th on the team)
3.36 GA/60 (15th on the team)
38.46 GF% (9th on the team)

So even if the goaltending was playing better, McDavid has been putrid this year. Not driving offense (11.35 HDCF/60 NINETEENTH ON THE TEAM).

Goaltending is an issue, defense is an issue...
McDavid playing like a third liner is a major one too.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Neither Draisaitl or McDavid look even close to top 10 players right now.
Arguably McDavid isn't even a top 10 player on our team.
Here is McDavids fancy stats righ tnow
2.89 xGF/60 (17th on the f***ing team)
2.77 xGA/60 (15th on the team)
51 xGF% (20th on the team...only Erne and Hamblin are worse)

Now for everyone who hates expected numbers...
2.1 GF/60 (12th on the team)
3.36 GA/60 (15th on the team)
38.46 GF% (9th on the team)

So even if the goaltending was playing better, McDavid has been putrid this year. Not driving offense (11.35 HDCF/60 NINETEENTH ON THE TEAM).

Goaltending is an issue, defense is an issue...
McDavid playing like a third liner is a major one too.

Not now, certainly. Surely you’re not dropping McDavid like a stone because of a bad stint? Most people here think he’s the best player in the world. If he is the best player in the world, 10-11 games shouldn’t change that. He’ll come back.

 

[K1984]

Not now, certainly. Surely you’re not dropping McDavid like a stone because of a bad stint? Most people here think he’s the best player in the world. If he is the best player in the world, 10-11 games shouldn’t change that. He’ll come back.

I'm also certain he'll come back, but unless the injury is truly the cause of what we're seeing from him at the moment, his play can't be called anything other than extremely disappointing and part of why we're in the situation we're in now. He's even neutering the PP with terrible puck management to the extent that the second unit has looked better than the first over a few games now.

 

[Stoneman89]

Disappointed that we didn’t physically make them pay in the third. Butter soft roster.

Drai gave them a good tongue lashing, and got 10 minutes for it.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

I personally hope he gets lit the f*** up lol

I kinda don't want that but I also don't want the pity win where his now 20+ game stretch without a single good performance get swept under the rug of indifference.

At best he is a meh goalie but he haven't been any good in a long while.

 

[Stoneman89]

Canucks look really good…

And to think, there was a clown that came on here at the beginning of the season, and said Hughes doesn't "look like captain material." Whatever the hell that means. It's now come to the point where we are the underdogs whenever we play the Canucks and anything other than a blowout for them can be considered and upset.

 

[Stoneman89]

Skinner got exposed quite badly in the playoffs. A lot of folks were saying it was due to him being worn out, but with the amount of times he got pulled, he probably should have been somewhat fresh. I had a chat with a guy that's a scout with Medicine Hat and the topic turned to Skinner. He said he had some severe faults in junior like poor lateral movement and ability to track the puck. Those same traits are seeming to be an issue with him even now.

 

[TheNumber4]

So your contention is that the goalie coach has wrecked every single goalie and these goalies (who had their games wrecked) never said a word about it.
Doesnt make sense to me at all.

Pro athletes usually don’t throw their coaches under the bus. Even if they should be. I don’t think no one speaking up about Schwartz means much at all.

Bring on the Goalie Carousal! It’s what we should have been doing all last year too, instead of making the idiotic move of signing Campbell.

 

[kevy9999]

I don't know about you all but I am praying we lose to San Jose. I want it to happen more than go

I don't know about you all but I am praying we lose to San Jose. I want it to happen more than anything

Stupid post of the year here. No! any fan with a brain doesn't hope they lose to san jose . And you want it so bad you pray for it lol. Get some help lol