Rubber Biscuit
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I’m sure someone will take him but I’m sure the return would be virtually nothing at this point
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I’m sure someone will take him but I’m sure the return would be virtually nothing at this point
Good team player that accepts his roll.
PlayMakers
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That would hurt. I'm probably higher on Gryz than most. I think people see him as a terrific bottom pair guy but I think he's a top pair guy in the mold of Vatanen or Spurgeon. I get it, depth for need and it's a deal we need and can afford to make, but I'd almost prefer it be Vaak. I know he has 10x the pedigree of Gryz but Gryz played top pair when Chara was out, went head to head against Crosby twice, has chemistry with McAvoy... all the things we hope Vaak will one day become.
Coach Parker
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Ouch. Yeah, the fanbase love for Grzelcyk is exactly what the fans in Vancouver have for Virtanen, hence me wanting the idea to sting a little to make sense. Same for them; Grzelcyk would be perfect with Stecher on the third pairing and could take over on the top line when Edler goes down for his annual 20 games.
Edler - Tanev
Hughes - Myers
Grzelcyk - Stecher
Hutton
Bruins get Virtanen at 1.25 and try him with Bergeron or Krejci and then grab Perry for the third line. Cheap 'show me' contracts that force Heinen, Senyshyn and Studnicka to win the spots on the roster.
Yes it is, for a serviceable backup d-man who proved he can come in a hold his own when needed. Worst case, he goes to Providence and his salary gets buried. I am hopeful we don't have to see him play, but the injuries are inevitable so this is a fine depth signing.
The don godfather
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Ok we seriously have bigger fish to fry. Hope Donny working on that second line.
Coach Parker
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12 Defensemen now:
Chara
Carlo
McAvoy
Krug
Moore
Miller
Kampfer
Vaakanianen
Zboril
Lauzon
Grzelcyk
Clifton
Chara
Carlo
McAvoy
Krug
Moore
Miller
Kampfer
Vaakanianen
Zboril
Lauzon
Grzelcyk
Clifton
bruinmann77
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Coach Parker
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Hopefully:
Krug - Carlo
Vaakanianen - McAvoy
Chara - Clifton
Kampfer
Move Grzelcyk, Miller and one of Lauzon/Zboril. Moore comes back in when healthy.
Krug - Carlo
Vaakanianen - McAvoy
Chara - Clifton
Kampfer
Move Grzelcyk, Miller and one of Lauzon/Zboril. Moore comes back in when healthy.
bruinmann77
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BigGoalBrad
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This is what I'd do but I think its fine to keep Gryz and let Vaak develop if Krug hasn't signed.
I also don't think we'll put Z on the 3rd pair if hes in the lineup hes playing with McAvoy. Not what I'd do but thats the way things work around here.
Coach Parker
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I see Vaakanianen becoming Carlo 2.0 exactly. So logically he goes with Krug 2.0 in McAvoy and Chara goes where he belongs on the third pairing working with Clifton. Great pairs all across and young prospects stepping up (and Moore and Kampfer as vets) when guys go down.
For the money he is going to get, I feel like moving Krug now is the right move. He should be able to get you a high end right winger.
Sorry, but no moving of the Gryz. He is better than Moore, Lauzon, Zboril, or Vaak. Chara should be done after next year (should have been done after this, but it is what it is). And, who knows what becomes of Krug? Moving Gryz (like @PlayMakers I see him as a top pair guy) would be madness, especially for a third liner like Jake Virtanen.
BruinDust
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He'll have no problem moving Miller and the final year of his deal. The return won't be great, but he's easily movable, especially being a right-shot defender who can kill penalties and defend teammates. Brings some leadership capability.
Kampfer's return no doubt signals the end of Miller in Boston. Kampfer is basically cheap insurance, and if you look at the depth chart, there isn't much there for RD in the pipeline past the parent club, at least in the short-term.
Fact is, assuming they can't move Backes, they had to move out some money to even be able to afford to extend McAvoy, Carlo, and Heinen. The 1.7 in difference between Kampfer at 800k and Miller at 2.5 will likely be required to extend Boston's own RFAs.
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BruinDust
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Unless they are moving him in a package to bring back a legitmate Top 6 forward, I don't see them moving Gryz. A team with cap problems isn't moving a guy who brings as much value as Gryz does at his current cap hit. Next summer who knows what happens with this roster.
Coach Parker
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Then it stands to reason that Krug is the odd man out then. I am a big fan of Grzelcyk's but something has to give to get help on the top 6 RW. It's crazy to think that the Bruins have a DOZEN NHL defensemen but only 5 top six forwards.
It would hurt but that I could see. He's pretty much my favorite Bruins d-man so I want him to stay. If moving him is part of a deal that brings back a 1st/2nd line RW that isn't over 30, then it would be a good move.
I like Gryz better than Krug and I think he is the better all-around defenseman, but he'll never do what Krug can do offensively. I think the Bruins can stand the loss of Krug who on his own can bring back the sort of forward we need. Gryz alone won't do it, so it's him plus something else. Makes more sense to me, all sentimentality aside, to move Krug.
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BruinDust
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I don't think anyone should be holding their breath on the Bruins bringing in anything resembling a Top 6 forward. Look at their cap now, and more importantly next summer. Where are they fitting in another high-priced forward?
I think it's far more likely they stay status quo this summer for the most part, and next summer they move out the final year of Krejci's deal so they can extend Krug.
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