I don't really get what you mean? He lost rockets to Gretzky, Hull, Selanne, Mogilny, Bure. Fair enough, without injuries you could probably take away Mogilny/Selanne.
You can't so casually paint Lemieux with this brush, he put up insane numbers into the dead puck era.
I don't know about that , Mario set up in his office on the boards near the goal line and chucked pucks in like candy.
On the contrary. Lemieux and Gretzky played against much better goalies than Ovechkin. Luongo, Lundquist, and Price will not overtake Smith, Fuhr, Roy, Hasek, Belfour, and Brodeur in the list of all-time goalie greats. Roy won as many Vezinas as those three combined, three more Conn Smythes than those three combined, and three more Cups than those three combined.
Plus Gretz was using wooden or alunimum sticks. Ever use an alunimum stick?
Ovechkin isnt even good at hockey you dare to compare him to Gretz/Lemieux
Ovechkin is worse than Leo Komarov objectively when we talk about hockey skills or atleast lot closer to Komarov than Lemieux
Ovechkin isnt even good at hockey you dare to compare him to Gretz/Lemieux
You say he is better than Lemieux okay sure.. You consider standing still and slapping goals more impressive than dominating game's with puck on your stick? I would say Kovalchuk was more impessive than Ovechkin skill/talent wise and he is nothing compared to Mario. Datsyuk was easily greatest player of this Rus generation he was equal to Crosby at his prime he could score 130 points easy if he would skip defense like Ovy did, but he was real hockey player.
Ovy does hammer home goals from his office but your selling him a bit short ,which im guessing your aware. Kovy had better wheels than Ovy but both supremely talented ,and both have possibly the best one-timers ever ,there that close as far as the one-time goes. I love Kovys highlights...PING and in.
Just for the record: Ovechkin scored against Hasek (1 goal in 2 games), Belfour (4 goals in 6 games), and Brodeur (7 goals in 23).
Kovy was amazing at his prime just played mostly with bad team's last 5 years he's been just shadow of what he was, but still Datsyuk was even greater than Kovy and clearly: Kovalchuk was invidual who excelled with his raw physichal talents/skills and Ovechkin is also same kind of quite primitive player ofc Ilya is more skill oriented than Ovy, but still they are more a like. Players like Datsyuk Forsberg Gretzky Lemieux Larionov and Jagr have amazing invidual skill/talent, but what seperates them from players like Kovalchuk is hockey sense they make others better around them and not just shine as inviduals making solo rushes or great shots.
Goaltender talent is debatable, but the disparity in the 80s and earlier 90s was absurd. A quick expansion and no salary cap resulted in dynasty teams 10x better than average, and for every Roy there were 10 goaltenders who regularly had .850 stats and used the technique that is deservedly extinct today. Same for the glorified defensemen: for every Ray Bourque there were dozens of players who could barely skate and play the puck. Scoring was much easier in that era than in the post-lockout/pre-McDavid era.
You're Gennady Ushakov I presume?Ovechkin isnt even good at hockey you dare to compare him to Gretz/Lemieux
Yeah, Hasek, Roy, Brodeur were such bums. They could never compete with the legends playing today...
The difference in average goalie save% over Lemieux's career compared to Ovi must be dramatic. Like 0.900 to 0.915?
