Alex Galchenyuk Part IV - Will he ever be Chucktastic/Michael Busto Edition

[ECWHSWI]

For now yes i do.

you guys say chuckie has roughly the same amount of points and thats true but he played vs inferior opponents. You know the other teams load up against Patches line. so chuckie gets to play vs their 2nd line at best.



P.S. you cant shelter a guy who plays with Patches. You get the top line and top pairing period.


I hope I am wrong guys, I really do. I would love nothing more than to cheer for him as he puts up 80+ points. I am just not convinced he can.

think you forgot 1st wave PP, playing with the best forward we have, zone starts and some other stuff...


thing is, he doesnt need to put up 80 pts per season to be better than DD, 50 pts while being more dynamic, helping his wingers produce more and be decent defensively would mean he is better that the midget...

lest not forget DD did NOT reach 50 pts this season, and has a grand total of 2 pts in 7 PO games (both points in same game) so far, one doesnt need to be all that great to surpass DD.

 

[Marc-E-]

I just think Galchenyuk points potential is around 60-70 pts. That's good. I'm not expecting more than that. He has to be a center next year. Bye bye DD and even Tomas Plekanec if we could end up with a real number one center à la Malkin/Thornton

 

[NotProkofievian]

NHL games and age ----> highly correlated

NHL games and maturity ----> highly correlated

Age and maturity? ----> Independent.

This is something which makes sense to Whiskey.

*ahem*

 

[Bacchus1]

He should have been sent to the AHL a while ago. He needs to develop high level professional skills. He is getting used to just surviving. I hope he has a break out year, soon.

 

[NotProkofievian]

He should have been sent to the AHL a while ago. He needs to develop high level professional skills. He is getting used to just surviving. I hope he has a break out year, soon.

When do you think he should have been sent to the AHL?

 

[DAChampion]

When do you think he should have been sent to the AHL?

LoL

 

[JayKing]

How about share the blame? Or is that not an option?

The idea that Galchenyuk is somehow destined to be a legit first line centre is an issue with this fan base. Being drafted 3rd overall is the problem. Too bad it was a horrible draft at the top and just because we've been starving for a real first line C doesn't magically mean Galchenyuk is the answer.

He deserves a lot of blame for how crappy he had been playing. Stupid decisions and questionable effort aren't exactly inspiring confidence. He rarely shoots and chokes on glorious chances. That said, get him at C next year where he can create more and hopefully there are more positive signs. It has been a very disappointing year from him. No sense in sugarcoating it and absolving him from any blame.

If he wasn't destined to be a first line center then we shouldn't have drafted him there and just picked one of the many defensemen available that projects to be a top pairing d-man.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I think I've litigated enough to warrant a thread title change to Bustchenybust.

Nope, not even close.

Not sure about harder minutes. Nearly identical offensive zone start percentage, rel quality of competition, power play TOI/game, etc...

DD played like 40 seconds more game at ES though. That's one shift. Their shifts per game is 22.8 and 22.9 respectively. In the end it's essentially DD taking a shift more or a few seconds longer per shift.

Their usage has been similar apart from Max-Weise vs Plekanec-Gallagher which is also similar.

We have tried to shelter Galchenyuk as well, but he should've been used with Max all year long. He should've been on the number one PP unit all year long. There's no reason to have wasted those minutes on DD who is as good as he'll ever be and inferior to three other centers on this team.

Give those minutes to Galchenyuk and we'll get better point production, more goals and we'll be developing a young player we're relying on to be a core part of our offense for the next decade. There's no reason to put this guy behind DD and on the wing.

 

[TheBlindFan]

http://hockeydraft.ca/players/andrei-markov.aspx

Andrei Markov was draft has a center... Maybe he can do the switch? is struggle at def lately...

If being the best production in is draft year make Galchenyuk a Bust then 2012 draft was very bad...

We have full of center, we are missing wings.

 

[Agalloch]

Offensive forwards begin to produce more at the fourth year of the career. I expect Galchenyuk to be center next year full time and have 65-70 points.

 

[WeberBombs]

The player Kostitsyn was in 2007-2011 woukd certainly complete our top six, but we all hope for better.

Seeing him in the IIHF tournament reminded me how much I miss him!

I'd take him over PAP/Weise/DSP in our top 6 anyday...even in 2015!

 

[Haaabs]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

You don't understand though, he didn't "earn it."

 

[BLONG7]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

Some nice stats...good work!!
Yet there is someone who would have you believe that Chucky wants to be a winger...but it's not Chucky...

 

[Takeru]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

Despite those obvious numbers, here we are again, relying on David "12pts in 34 playoffs games" Desharnais, when everyone was screaming that it would be that way. Yet Therrien somehow thought this would be a better option than the alternative we're seeing here.

 

[Smokey Thompson]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

That's great. The best part is the team as a whole was playing better because the players were put into roles where they belonged. Desharnais was doing fine on the 3rd line and Plekanec doesn't need to play with talented players to be effective.

Most of all, Galchenyuk looked great at both ends of the ice and was playing the best hockey of his career.

 

[NotProkofievian]

That's great. The best part is the team as a whole was playing better because the players were put into roles where they belonged. Desharnais was doing fine on the 3rd line and Plekanec doesn't need to play with talented players to be effective.

Most of all, Galchenyuk looked great at both ends of the ice and was playing the best hockey of his career.

Nope, didn't earn it, was a total lemon. Lirl.

 

[417]

I'm still not worried about Galchenyuk because the end of the day, he just turned 22yrs old.

That being said, when is this organization, that includes the coaching staff, going to prioritize his development as much as they have Desharnais'?

 

[didimentionlarseller]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

Therrien says he doesn't want to play center

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Therrien says he doesn't want to play center

And that was refuted by Galchenyuk himself.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I'm still not worried about Galchenyuk because the end of the day, he just turned 22yrs old.

That being said, when is this organization, that includes the coaching staff, going to prioritize his development as much as they have Desharnais'?

He just turned 21 in fact. Played the lion's share of the season as a 20 year old. Which, according to some, means he's clearly finished his development. Why? Because of erudite comparisons to 26 year olds.

 

[Smokey Thompson]

He just turned 21 in fact. Played the lion's share of the season as a 20 year old. Which, according to some, means he's clearly finished his development. Why? Because of erudite comparisons to 26 year olds.

Yep. The fact of the matter is he has at least another 4 years of development. Does that mean he won't put up 60 points until he's 25? No. It just means that he'll continue to improve all facets of his game for a few more years. Giving up on him now would be completely ridiculous.

Also, while he's obviously in a funk and hasn't been as good as he should be for various reasons, he put up nearly 50 points as a 20 year old and did score 20 goals. Considering he was in a drought for nearly the last 30 games of the season, it's reasonable to expect him to score 30 goals next season and 65ish point if he's used the way he should be used.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Yep. The fact of the matter is he has at least another 4 years of development. Does that mean he won't put up 60 points until he's 25? No. It just means that he'll continue to improve all facets of his game for a few more years. Giving up on him now would be completely ridiculous.

Also, while he's obviously in a funk and hasn't been as good as he should be for various reasons, he put up nearly 50 points as a 20 year old and did score 20 goals. Considering he was in a drought for nearly the last 30 games of the season, it's reasonable to expect him to score 30 goals next season and 65ish point if he's used the way he should be used.

Agree completely. I think it'll be next year for Galchenyuk. He was awfully close this year. He strikes me as being a Subbanian off season away from cementing himself as a top line player. It should hardly need to be said, but a 20 goal season is no reason to sell early on a player of his talent.

 

[BomaLightDevils]

Galchenyuk's season
80GP 20G 26A 46PTS +9
0.575 PPG

Galchenyuk's stint at center
12 GP 4G 5A 9PTS +6
0.75 PPG

Galchenyuk's season at wing
68GP 16G 21A 37PTS +3
0.54 PPG

December 9 to January 14, Galchenyuk played center with Pacioretty and Gallagher. Their stats on that line were

Pacioretty
12GP 6G 7A 13PTS +12
1.08 PPG
Gallagher
12GP 4G 3A 7PTS +9
0.58 PPG

Habs
9-2-1

Look at hes icetime from the 12 games and tell me again he played 1 line minutes. He maybe played with your best wing but almost all games he was sheltered in the so called "first line" plekanec and Eller played more minutes.

 

[goforit]

I just think Galchenyuk points potential is around 60-70 pts. That's good. I'm not expecting more than that. He has to be a center next year. Bye bye DD and even Tomas Plekanec if we could end up with a real number one center à la Malkin/Thornton

You know that Galchenyuk still hasn't dominate, even playing LW? And you would like to get rid of Plekanec to give him his place? I think a lot of people underestimate what he brings to the team.

I would agree to get rid of DD but not to give his spot to Galchenyuk. The kid has only played 1 year at center 1st junior year. He is not ready to do this at this level. And please, don't bring me that 11 game stint where he had like 8-9 points. He had some multipoints games at the beginning of this and was a non-factor for a majority of those points.