Needles
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Mark Stone? http://senshot.com/2015/01/30/mark-stone-first-line-player/
Don't know about the price though.
Don't know about the price though.
If it were a short term deal similar to the last one he signed I would agree with you 100 percent.
But - you would like to think that he had enough foresight to understand the value of a huge term on what is in all likelyhood going to be a future powerhouse - with him as an integral part of that. SO offer something like 8yrs / $45m, front loaded as much as is possible these days & see where it gets you.
If it were a short term deal similar to the last one he signed I would agree with you 100 percent.
But - you would like to think that he had enough foresight to understand the value of a huge term on what is in all likelyhood going to be a future powerhouse - with him as an integral part of that. SO offer something like 8yrs / $45m, front loaded as much as is possible these days & see where it gets you.
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I actually hate Subway.
I may be naive here, but at the end of the day he is a nice player, but is not a 'superstar'. If somebody wants to offer him >7 per with term they're welcome to it IMO. I'd really like him on the Sabres personally but at some stage an over inflated salary starts to get in the way, when you have guys like Risto/Zadorov/Reinhart/Eichel etc. to extend.
I want Phil Kessel bad.
for what we'd have to give up for him this board would cry. Especially after yesterday.
how about the Vanek deal, for Oreilly
Ennis (moulson), Conditional 2016 1st (top 5 protected), 2017 2nd
Once we have McDavid/Eichel in hand then I think Murray go full steam ahead with the building phase. O'Reilly would be a great piece. A young leader to insulate the kids the way the Oilers never have. One thing I found very interesting is that Murray is very tight with Oester, the agent for Kane who is also the agent for O'Reilly. If Murray makes a play for him then you know he knows he can workout a financial deal long term.
I would love to see the off-season unfold like:
1) Draft McDavid/Eichel
2) Send NYI 1st, Grigorenko, McCabe to Avs for O'Reilly, sign him long term
3) sign either Boychuk or Methot
4) Send NYI 2nd and a middle prospect to L.A. For Martin Jones
Probably a pipedream scenario but it would insulate the kids and set this team up to be competitive for a long time with Fashing, Bailey, Baptiste, Compher, Carrier still coming down the pipeline.
I wouldn't just hand O'Reilly whatever he wants because the has been tough to negotiate with in the past, and I highly doubt Tim would either. Logan Couture signed a 5 year 30 million dollar contract at about the same age with a better track record, and is a better player. Patrice Bergeron although at a different point in his career signed a 8 year 52 million dollar contract with and is the better player. A cap hit of 6.5 Per.
I am not interested in handing over a 52 million dollar deal to O'Reilly, I think that's borderline insane, but I would give him a comparable deal to that of Couture for starters. If he feels he is worth 52 million dollars over 8 seasons I would simply walk, between Girgensons, Eichel (hopefully), Kane and Reinhart that's going to be an awful lot of money tied down. He is a really nice two way player but I don't think he is a game changer.
His contract isn't the greatest and I feel like "star" players never go for what they think. Look at a guy like Rick Nash.
w top 6 forwards, a 1st and a good prospect. Yeah that's alot. Especially considering Nash handcuffed the jackets.
Not moving the 2016 1st.....if anything it would be a 2017 1st that is conditional on signing him to an extension.
Ennis is not moukson...Moulson was in his final year. Ennis has more value.
I would be fine doing 2 only if 1 happened
The other moves are fine...it depends on what contract though...
You have to watch what you pay ROR because that could set a future benchmark on buffalos kids. You have to pencil in some Dort of cost based on roster spaces and see how much that leave you if you assume the cap is $80M in 2020.
No because Murray can't trade and will overpay in some stupid way. Its so bad how Jets fans are parading around about how they won the Kane deal and how every player will work out. I'm still sour over Lemieux because he didn't want to sign but apparently he always wanted the jets according to fans.
I'm sure many thought LA trading a top 5 prospect and a quality young NHLer for Richards was overpayment and a loss.
Sabres aren't even going to get a sniff of O'Reilly. He'll be gone sooner than later as the Av's decide to sell at best max value for desperately needed help at D. Either trade deadline or around July 1.
Watched O'Reilly vs the Rangers tonight. Not happy with his play. A lot of coasting and watching, not working hard on the boards or corners. He's been this way for most of the season except for a few short flashes.
Ranger's have a very nice team and Av's were out worked and out played and out skilled most of the game except for a brief burst of Colorado energy that tied the game 3 -3 for a short time. But really, was all Rangers tonight.
Hayes really shined. O'Reilly owned Stepan and Moore at the dot but Brassard outdrew O'Reilly by a couple.