Player Discussion Adam Fox

[Off Sides]

Chabot 8 x 8 (4 ufa years)

Provorov 6.75 x 6 (3 ufa years)

Theodore 5.2 x 7 (2 ufa years)

Werenski 5 x 3 (bridge deal)

DeAngelo 4.8 x 2 (bridge deal)

Just a couple examples, yet where does one put Fox in there and how many years of UFA do they want the Rangers to buy if any?

 

[romba]

Why would you want Fox to get EN points? He’s just going to demand a crazier contract.

we should win 1-0 in the S/O every night, would only need to pay the goalie then lol

 

[bobbop]

Chabot 8 x 8 (4 ufa years)

Provorov 6.75 x 6 (3 ufa years)

Theodore 5.2 x 7 (2 ufa years)

Werenski 5 x 3 (bridge deal)

DeAngelo 4.8 x 2 (bridge deal)

Just a couple examples, yet where does one put Fox in there and how many years of UFA do they want the Rangers to buy if any?

A real good question. I would favor the Provorov deal as a comperable. I'd love to get the Theodore contract but we are not going to be able to get that done after the way he has played. Pay for quality.

 

[OrangePMD]

If Fox accepts a deal like that he is a fool. He could easily demand up to 6.5-7M on a 7 year deal.

I agree. I'd definitely pay him whatever he wants.

Thomas Chabot is another young d-man who signed a year early. 8x8. It was after a 14 goal, 55 point season. But, it was also pre-covid, and shortly after the Sebastian Aho offer sheet, which might have freaked Melnyk and co. out a bit.

 

[Rempe73]

we should win 1-0 in the S/O every night, would only need to pay the goalie then lol

I’m good with players getting earned points, regardless. But when players get unearned points, like Skjei, Strome, and Trouba, well, you see what happens. With Fox, even if he doesn’t develop even a bit more, he’s still going to get a fat contract. He’s already a top 10 defenseman in the league imo. The last thing we need for a guy like that is for him to get EN points. I expressed the same concern over DeAngelo. I seriously thought he was going to demand 7 mil+ (which I would have given him anyways but still).

 

[aufheben]

The pair of NYR logos tucked away in the top-right are Fox and Lindgren:

 

[Harbour Dog]

The pair of NYR logos tucked away in the top-right are Fox and Lindgren:

Is Johnson that lonely guy in the bottom left.

 

[aufheben]

Is Johnson that lonely guy in the bottom left.

Hajek.

 

[UnSandvich]

3. One of the most interesting things about the top four defence pairs is that all four are tasked with playing tough minutes in a shutdown role. That they’re earning a 60 percent expected goals rate or higher is astonishing given the circumstances, and it’s especially impressive from the pair on the other New York club: Adam Fox and Ryan Lindgren.
Fox was an analytics darling in his rookie season, but there was some skepticism about how good he really was and whether he could keep it up in a bigger role. He’s taken on that challenge this season and is crushing it. No other defenceman in the league faces tougher forward competition than Fox this season and despite that, he still has a 57.6 percent expected goals rate that ranks as the best among Rangers defenders. That’s mostly by way of his defensive impact, but he’s also scoring at a 51-point pace.
Fox has been sensational, living up to last year’s hype. Among defensemen, he currently ranks third in GSVA.

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[Raspewtin]

3. One of the most interesting things about the top four defence pairs is that all four are tasked with playing tough minutes in a shutdown role. That they’re earning a 60 percent expected goals rate or higher is astonishing given the circumstances, and it’s especially impressive from the pair on the other New York club: Adam Fox and Ryan Lindgren.
Fox was an analytics darling in his rookie season, but there was some skepticism about how good he really was and whether he could keep it up in a bigger role. He’s taken on that challenge this season and is crushing it. No other defenceman in the league faces tougher forward competition than Fox this season and despite that, he still has a 57.6 percent expected goals rate that ranks as the best among Rangers defenders. That’s mostly by way of his defensive impact, but he’s also scoring at a 51-point pace.
Fox has been sensational, living up to last year’s hype. Among defensemen, he currently ranks third in GSVA.

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I dont ever want to hear "trouba gives fox room to be good" again.

 

[Sayba]

I dont ever want to hear "trouba gives fox room to be good" again.

Time to bring back a classic, the good the bad the Trouba.

 

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[The S5]

If you are Fox and see that the Ranger's gave Trouba $8m per, how do you take a long term deal making a couple of million less?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If you are Fox and see that the Ranger's gave Trouba $8m per, how do you take a long term deal making a couple of million less?

I'm sure Fox, or at least his agent, understands the nuances and how restricted years affect the salary calculation

 

[ElLeetch]

If you are Fox and see that the Ranger's gave Trouba $8m per, how do you take a long term deal making a couple of million less?

because it will be a mostly RFA-years deal.

 

[Off Sides]

Trouba's last RFA year paid him 8M.

His RFA year before that was for 5.5M

Good luck trying to convince Fox that his RFA years are not worth a bunch.

 

[huerter]

I mean Trouba just can't be on this team going forward. Some people knew this before his clause kicked in. They tried to silence us. Now we're an army.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Fox is going to give a hometown discount. He’s living his (and my) dream playing for the New York Rangers.

8 years around 6.5 mil is my guess. He won’t get ufa money

and he’ll sign another contract after that for more IMO

If he gets anything under 7 per (if he signs that long) he should fire his agent.

Even 7 would be a bargain

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Trouba's last RFA year paid him 8M.

His RFA year before that was for 5.5M

Good luck trying to convince Fox that his RFA years are not worth a bunch.

8m? That's not how it works. His contract includes 1 RFA year and 6 UFA years. With an average of 8m. That doesn't mean he would have gotten 8m if he signed for just his one RFA year.

 

[True Blue]

I dont ever want to hear "trouba gives fox room to be good" again.

That’s because this year is not last year.

 

[aufheben]

Hmm, who was that guy yesterday saying Fox is as good as McAvoy?

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[GoAwayPanarin]

I think the list of NHL defensemen I'd take right now over Fox is less than 10.

If the list took into account what they are now and how many years they have left ahead of them, I think that list is 1.

 

[aufheben]

I think the list of NHL defensemen I'd take right now over Fox is less than 10.

If the list took into account what they are now and how many years they have left ahead of them, I think that list is 1.

Pionk?

 

[Machinehead]

Hmm, who was that guy yesterday saying Fox is as good as McAvoy?

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@Machinehead

Oh, I see. I thought you were arguing with some dumb Bruins fan. I think Fox is better than McAvoy lol.