Speculation: Acq./Rost. Bldg./Cap Part XLII

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Made this offer on the main board:



Logan Couture



2015 1st, Burakovsky, Laich, Schmidt

Ain't happening. Couture is the post-Thornton/Marleau core.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

So, comprehensive list of top-end or big-money players who might be realistically available?

Kessel, Phaneuf, ROR, Pavelski, Yandle, Lupul, Bozak, Eriksson

That's what I've got.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Ain't happening. Couture is the post-Thornton/Marleau core.

Wilson wants to make franchise altering moves. He can't do it with the NTCs he's handed out. Thornton and Pavs can play 1 and 2c and they can find their young C of the future else where.

 

[Raikkonen]

So, comprehensive list of top-end or big-money players who might be realistically available?

Kessel, Phaneuf, ROR, Pavelski, Yandle, Lupul, Bozak, Eriksson

That's what I've got.

From that list...

Kessel is too expensive for us (Ovie is in his role already).
Phaneuf is covered by Orpik and Niskanen signings.
Yandle is like LH Green who is expensive to acquire to boot.
Lupul is kinda always injured.
Bozak is questionable upgrade over Kuz, not much physical I think.

ROR is wildcard. I don't know if we can trade for him, if we can sign him later, if he will help much. Too much questions.

Pavelski is a move you do any day of the week. Just the availability in question.

Eriksson is much cheaper (and safer) from this list. He's 29 only.

So it's Loui!


PS: I think we can't place all eggs in the 2017 basket. Risky strategy.

PPS: Wilson is better ~last 5 games. Maybe he was dinged. Lets see what he can do in April.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

Do people watch Montreal? They are a bad hockey team. If Carey Price isn't in God mode they have no chance. Their offensive strategy consists of try to get Patches a breakaway. That's about it.

Or offensive strategy is to pass the puck to Ovi on the PP.

We are as bad up front as anyone other than Boston.

 

[BobRouse]

Or offensive strategy is to pass the puck to Ovi on the PP.

We are as bad up front as anyone other than Boston.

Thats pretty dubious and I would hope you are just being sarcastic.

Caps have 2 of the top 5 scorers in the league and 4 guys who are just about a lock to hit 20 goals (8, 19, 20 and 16) and another couple who will be close to that (Ward, MJ)

If Trotz actually used Burakovsky he would have had 20 goals potentially as well.

I really think we have our 1 RW. Coach doesn't agree however.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Or offensive strategy is to pass the puck to Ovi on the PP.

We are as bad up front as anyone other than Boston.

This is garbage. They're 5th in the East and 11th in the League in ES GF. 10th in ES GF%. Others have already put out the statistics showing our forwards vs other teams in the East so I won't rehash it, but you're flat out wrong.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Wilson wants to make franchise altering moves. He can't do it with the NTCs he's handed out. Thornton and Pavs can play 1 and 2c and they can find their young C of the future else where.

A bird in the hand...

I'd be shocked if Couture isn't, by far, the least likely Shark to be moved.

 

[Raikkonen]

I got the idea!

Laich + for McClement and Semin (salary retained, at least 2,5M).

Laich (4,5M x 2) out.
Semin (4,5 x 3) in.

McClement do what BL did (3rd line checking role + PK). Could be resigned. Quality player for this role.

Semin is fun! LW/RW for top-6 (OBS or winger for Kuz, either side).

Heads explode! Hair gets gray!

Think about it. Could Semin be worse than Eriksson? (ofc yes)

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Semin at 4.5 for 3 more years is horrid, given what he's shown the last two seasons.

Wait until he's bought out, and then maybe give him a show-me 1 year deal.

 

[g00n]

The TDL thread is prepped. Check out the multiple choice poll options before launch here:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1840245

Locked until this current thread runs its course. Then the poll options are final. Speak now about serious options. I left off the big money/term guys so anyone who seriously thinks we're going after the expensive, long-term players can pencil in their choices.

Cap hit and term numbers are from various web sources so point out serious errors only, no nitpicking.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

The TDL thread is prepped. Check out the multiple choice poll options before launch here:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1840245

Locked until this current thread runs its course. Then the poll options are final. Speak now about serious options. I left off the big money/term guys so anyone who seriously thinks we're going after the expensive, long-term players can pencil in their choices.

Cap hit and term numbers are from various web sources so point out serious errors only, no nitpicking.

Possibly add Erik Cole - 2015 UFA, $4.5 cap hit, $4.0 salary

Kimmo Timonen - 2015 UFA, $3.5 cap hit, $2.0 salary...there were also bonus implications for GP for 2016 that Langway posted a few pages back.

 

[Pigskin]

Semin at 4.5 for 3 more years is horrid, given what he's shown the last two seasons.

Wait until he's bought out, and then maybe give him a show-me 1 year deal.

ok, so Canes buy him out ... we get him for 1 year at $2m ... great

he shows us ... then what ?

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

ok, so Canes buy him out ... we get him for 1 year at $2m ... great

he shows us ... then what ?

Then, give him another 1 year deal at bigger money. Giving term to Semin is just asking him to take most of the contract off.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

I don't see any way Philly trades Timo now that they're back in the hunt.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

A bird in the hand...

I'd be shocked if Couture isn't, by far, the least likely Shark to be moved.

Not disagreeing with you, but his hands are tied and he needs to make moves. People in danger of losing their jobs do stupid things.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

I don't see any way Philly trades Timo now that they're back in the hunt.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nhl/easternstandings.html

We'll see I guess.

 

[BobRouse]

I expect Doug Wilson to find a way to convince Thornton and Marleau to leave at this point.

Thornton I'm sure will waive his NTC to goto the Rangers. ALL big name players want to play for the Rangers in the twilight of their careers. Thats how its been since the dawn of time.

I don't believe they will move young pieces to try to make the playoffs. They were in a retool to begin with and that was the plan going in. The season has gone about what they were expecting as they didn't make any upgrades.

Truth be told they mainly need an upgrade in goal and they will be fine so I don't see them trading Couture or Pavelski

 

[g00n]

Possibly add Erik Cole - 2015 UFA, $4.5 cap hit, $4.0 salary

Kimmo Timonen - 2015 UFA, $3.5 cap hit, $2.0 salary...there were also bonus implications for GP for 2016 that Langway posted a few pages back.

Added. Anyone else? Only a few posts left...

 

[Pigskin]

Then, give him another 1 year deal at bigger money. Giving term to Semin is just asking him to take most of the contract off.

I guess he might go for that to hang out with his mates

1 year is too long a term

I think it would be wise to pay him per goal


on an unrelated topic ... the cost of Sekera seems very high to me for a UFA ... but he would be a nice add at around $3m for the length of the Orpik contract

currently our defensive D are left, and offensive D right ... he would add flexibility in this area

Orlov being a related question mark

 

[Raikkonen]

Semin at 4.5 for 3 more years is horrid, given what he's shown the last two seasons.

Wait until he's bought out, and then maybe give him a show-me 1 year deal.

Well, that's better, ofc, but it could be just not in the cards.

Do you believe GMBM will dump Laich just for cap space? In summer?
Also I don't believe you can trade Laich for required top-6 RW.

If it's 4,5M albatross for another 4,5M albatross - what's worse?

I even doubt Semin's agent will want to sign for 4M or less with the Caps. He will probably find suitor for around 5M/1Y somewhere else. That's ****ing Gandler.

If you think Semin will WANT to play for Caps for 2M/1Y I guess he will want so not because of money.

Pure theory. I'm tired of waiting for TDL.

Plz no to Mojo ~4M.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

I'll take the 4.5M albatross with one year less term, leadership abilities, and who can play a shutdown/PK role.

I don't think they necessarily have to move anyone purely for cap space in the summer.

 

[Blades of Steel]

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Sorry if already shared, at work..

 

[g00n]

Ok enough time has passed and I need to bolt for a bit so moving to the other thread with active TDL poll here:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1840245