Lol Nylander a better center than Kadri.Nylander is already a better center than Kadri was at the same age. One can argue his faceoffs at 21 years of age is better than Kadri's current faceoff skills at 27. Foolish to think the organization is sold on him not ever being a center. Look how many years it took Kadri to be considered defensively responsible.
Not to mention Nylander literally played center at times.
It is more suitable to have Nylander at wing in the current lineup. That doesn't mean management doesn't think he can't become a center.
"Seems pretty clear". Nah
Lol Nylander a better center than Kadri.
Babcock does not see him as a center and I agree.
Reason why: he has not shown himself to be an NHL Center when given the opportunity. He lacks the wherewithal to go to the areas of the ice that centers are required to go to if they are to be centers. Hell as of now he is still a late game winger who is replaced for a better defensive player.
Kadri has never avoid the areas of the ice that is required to be an Center in the NHL.
Nylander is a very incomplete player as a winger and those need to change before he would ever be considered as a Leaf center full time. It was the reason why we were shopping for a center.Maybe saying Nylander is a better center is incorrect, a more accurate statement would be Nylander is a more skilled player. I think SOME of us forget (aka blind spot) just how incomplete Kadri was as a player before Babcock.
Nylander is a very incomplete player as a winger and those need to change before he would ever be considered as a Leaf center full time. It was the reason why we were shopping for a center.
In my opinion Babcock does not see Nylander as a Center.
As for Kadri he has always rose to any challenge put in front of him. As well as took ownership of his deficiencies, same can not be said for most players.
I really wonder about this crazy DeHaan rumour. There doesn't seem to be big need at LHD for Leafs. I still maintain that if Tavares hadn't been signed, Nylander would have been given the opportunity to player centre. Much more potential upside for the Leafs than Ryan.
Lol Nylander a better center than Kadri.
Babcock does not see him as a center and I agree.
Reason why: he has not shown himself to be an NHL Center when given the opportunity. He lacks the wherewithal to go to the areas of the ice that centers are required to go to if they are to be centers. Hell as of now he is still a late game winger who is replaced for a better defensive player.
Kadri has never avoid the areas of the ice that is required to be an Center in the NHL.
Wrong again Nylander is not a center and Kadri is. Real hard to be better at center when not playing the position over a player who is.I never said Nylander is better. I said Nylander is better than Kadri (at center) when Kadri was the same age.
Wrong again Nylander is not a center and Kadri is. Real hard to be better at center when not playing the position over a player who is.
What does at the same age mean to you dude? Kadri was a horrible center to begin his career. He couldn't even crack the team full time until his 4th season and played wing a lot of games. Nylander is already better than him at faceoffs at their real ages.
All I was saying is the fact Kadri was able to develop into a good center after it looked like he may be converted to wing early in his career can suggest there's a chance Nylander can become a center. If he doesn't then he doesn't.
Nylander took over 600 faceoffs last season and won > 50 % of them so it's pretty absurd people are writing him off as becoming a center one day. What pure winger takes over 600 draws? When Matthews was injured Nylander played center. How does that suggest management is writing him off as being a center eventually?
If all of that suggests ZERO chance Nylander can be a center one day then I'm clearly talking to a brick wall.
does nylander get 60 plus points without Mathews ,marner can and has .Wilson was an asshat and had it out for Kadri in what many believe was the worse treatment of a top prospect we have ever had!
Facts are an issue with you Kadri was a full time center at 22 years old getting 44 points in 48 games. Nylander will not be a Center and he is 22 years old. Same age by the way!
As for faceoffs Nylander took faceoffs only on his strong side and not defensive faceoffs, which does not make him a center. Kadri tales faceoffs against the best in the game on both sides of the ice.
When Mathews was hurt Marleau played center a lot not Nylander and Nylander play a couple of games at center and that was it. You make it seem like he played all those game at center when that was simply not true. You suggesting that he is a better center than Kadri is a joke at any age.
Babcock does not trust Nylander late in games as a winger and you believe he would have him play center...lol he is not now an NHL Center nor have I ever believed he was going to be one at least not for Babcock he lacks the jam to play center. The fact the Leafs were looking at Ryan proves that Babcock did not see Willy as a center as they were not going to pay him 3.5 m per to play 4th line center.
The fact still remains that Kadri is a center and Willy is not. So it is impossible for Willy to be better st center then Kadri if not playing the position. Is that to hard for you to understand?