Friedman: A Vatanen-Drouin deal makes sense

[Hictor Vedman*]

How about Fowler for Drouin?

Anybody? Anybody...?

Not very keen on Vatanen's contract.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

How about Fowler for Drouin?

Anybody? Anybody...?

Not very keen on Vatanen's contract.

Value is fine but fowlwr is a ufa next season and supposdly talks are going good with ducks so prob a 0 chance we move him unless talks go south

 

[leaflover]

Vatanen to Tampa Bay does actually look like a good fit. New Jersey would also be a good landing spot for him but maybe Tampa has more preferable assets to send back.

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

Value is fine but fowlwr is a ufa next season and supposdly talks are going good with ducks so prob a 0 chance we move him unless talks go south

That might be why they would wanna move him though, either if he wants to test free agency, or if he wants more than what Anaheim is willing to pay and can easily replace him with the other D you have.

I'd be willing to roll the dice. 4M cap hit for next year helps us out for this year and then... well, he definitely won't make more than Hedman but next offseason would be interesting.

Still prefer that than Vatanen though. Fowler would definitely be a solid #2 for us, though he doesn't play on the right side, right?

 

[nilssont]

That might be why they would wanna move him though, either if he wants to test free agency, or if he wants more than what Anaheim is willing to pay and can easily replace him with the other D you have.

I'd be willing to roll the dice. 4M cap hit for next year helps us out for this year and then... well, he definitely won't make more than Hedman but next offseason would be interesting.

Still prefer that than Vatanen though. Fowler would definitely be a solid #2 for us, though he doesn't play on the right side, right?

No he doesnt. Also in 2015 when paired with Despres, who also is a lefty, Despres played the right side.

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

No he doesnt. Also in 2015 when paired with Despres, who also is a lefty, Despres played the right side.

Shame. Hedman-Fowler would have been lethal. Then again, putting him on the second pairing still works wonders for our PP and getting the second line going as well.

I'd do it. Drouin for Fowler straight up.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Shame. Hedman-Fowler would have been lethal. Then again, putting him on the second pairing still works wonders for our PP and getting the second line going as well.

I'd do it. Drouin for Fowler straight up.

Idk that tamp would because its a rental basically.... thats a tough loss if he doesnt resign in tampa.

Either way it sounds like talks are going good with anaheim

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Shame. Hedman-Fowler would have been lethal. Then again, putting him on the second pairing still works wonders for our PP and getting the second line going as well.

I'd do it. Drouin for Fowler straight up.

All indications have Fowler and the Ducks looking close on a long term deal. Can't really afford to part with our biggest minute muncher, especially with Lindholm on the shelf to start the year.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Steel + Vatanen for Drouin with maybe a small +. Ritchie and Jones don't do much for us, we don't play a heavy game so we don't need a big power forward, we also have Erne who's a lite version of a power forward. Vatanen is injured and Anaheim is in more need of trading him than Tampa is of trading Drouin. If Steel is a deal breaker than I look to Carolina, Minnesota or Vegas depending on who they draft to trade Drouin to.

 

[liquiduck]

I don't see Anaheim adding Steel in any deal where they are also sending a young top 4 defense men the other way.

 

[Avs_19]

Friedman says that deal makes sense but LeBrun was on the radio today and he said his understanding is that the Ducks don't want money coming back in a Vatanen deal. They want young assets or a younger player with a small cap hit. If that's accurate then I don't see how Drouin makes sense because he's probably not taking less than $6M/yr on his new contract.

edit: This was during the first hour of Leafs Lunch if anyone wants to listen.

 

[dracom]

Friedman says that deal makes sense but LeBrun was on the radio today and he said his understanding is that the Ducks don't want money coming back in a Vatanen deal. They want young assets or a younger player with a small cap hit. If that's accurate then I don't see how Drouin makes sense because he's probably not taking less than $6M/yr on his new contract.

I just don't see why he gets that, he hasn't exactly earned that big of contract just yet. Kuch has done more and he took a cheaper bridge deal.

 

[c_robio]

Friedman says that deal makes sense but LeBrun was on the radio today and he said his understanding is that the Ducks don't want money coming back in a Vatanen deal. They want young assets or a younger player with a small cap hit. If that's accurate then I don't see how Drouin makes sense because he's probably not taking less than $6M/yr on his new contract.

Well thats good news. Don't want to trade Drouin for Vatanen

 

[c_robio]

I just don't see why he gets that, he hasn't exactly earned that big of contract just yet. Kuch has done more and he took a cheaper bridge deal.

There's no reason to believe Drouin won't accept a bridge deal. I think people are believing that because of his trade request but it's not at all related

 

[tomd]

Steel + Vatanen for Drouin with maybe a small +. Ritchie and Jones don't do much for us, we don't play a heavy game so we don't need a big power forward, we also have Erne who's a lite version of a power forward. Vatanen is injured and Anaheim is in more need of trading him than Tampa is of trading Drouin. If Steel is a deal breaker than I look to Carolina, Minnesota or Vegas depending on who they draft to trade Drouin to.

Yeah, this trade only works if TB has identified Vatanen as the D they want and are willing to deal Drouin in return. If not, Anaheim will likely not be adding a lot to sweeten the deal. Losing a key prospect along with Vatanen is not very compelling when there are probably other offers BM is getting that will involve dealing only Vatanen. Drouin may have the highest ceiling but BM will not overpay to get it.

 

[THall4]

Your point that the Johansen-Jones trade was more recent than the Hall-Larsson trade still stands despite the Johansen-Jones trade not being more recent than the Hall-Larsson trade?

interesting approach

Also RyJo-Jones trade was Potential 1C for a potential 1D. Vatanen for Drouin isn't even close to that with Drouin holding far more potential. Ducks need to add.

Vatanen+ Kerdiles for Drouin?

 

[dracom]

Also RyJo-Jones trade was Potential 1C for a potential 1D. Vatanen for Drouin isn't even close to that with Drouin holding far more potential. Ducks need to add.

Vatanen+ Kerdiles for Drouin?

Lol, yeah we do that easily.

Which means Tampa doesn't.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Also RyJo-Jones trade was Potential 1C for a potential 1D. Vatanen for Drouin isn't even close to that with Drouin holding far more potential. Ducks need to add.

Vatanen+ Kerdiles for Drouin?

Kerdiles doesn't have much value really...I'd be willing to add a better piece than that from an Anaheim perspective, Max Jones for instance.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Also RyJo-Jones trade was Potential 1C for a potential 1D. Vatanen for Drouin isn't even close to that with Drouin holding far more potential. Ducks need to add.

Vatanen+ Kerdiles for Drouin?

If that's who tampa wanted sure lol but I assumed they take back a good winger prospect over kerdiles or a good defense prospect

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Friedman says that deal makes sense but LeBrun was on the radio today and he said his understanding is that the Ducks don't want money coming back in a Vatanen deal. They want young assets or a younger player with a small cap hit. If that's accurate then I don't see how Drouin makes sense because he's probably not taking less than $6M/yr on his new contract.

edit: This was during the first hour of Leafs Lunch if anyone wants to listen.

That's the other problem I'm guessing the owners want to go back to the internal cap(whatever that # may be) so they may look for a futures package and start trimming the money down.

 

[tomd]

Friedman says that deal makes sense but LeBrun was on the radio today and he said his understanding is that the Ducks don't want money coming back in a Vatanen deal. They want young assets or a younger player with a small cap hit. If that's accurate then I don't see how Drouin makes sense because he's probably not taking less than $6M/yr on his new contract.

edit: This was during the first hour of Leafs Lunch if anyone wants to listen.

makes sense...although I think he'll have to settle for closer to $4 million I can see the Ducks looking at a less expensive option.

 

[caliamad]

Friedman says that deal makes sense but LeBrun was on the radio today and he said his understanding is that the Ducks don't want money coming back in a Vatanen deal. They want young assets or a younger player with a small cap hit. If that's accurate then I don't see how Drouin makes sense because he's probably not taking less than $6M/yr on his new contract.

edit: This was during the first hour of Leafs Lunch if anyone wants to listen.

ducks would be insane to pass on drouin to save salary. there are plenty of other places to cut. looking at you stoner, bieksa, depres, perry, etc.

if they insist on steel, I pass, but pretty much anyone else I try to figure out a pick or prospect to make it work.

but if drouin is off the table I do hope they cut salary and resign eaves.

 

[NEWFowler]

As much as I would love Drouin, I don't see it happening, fellow Ducks fans. It would take Fowler or Lindholm.

 

[NickLidstrom]

Jones-Johansen was more recent and a better indication

No it wasn't. Jones was traded in January of 2016, Larsson in July.

 

[57special]

How about Fowler for Drouin?

Anybody? Anybody...?

Not very keen on Vatanen's contract.

Yeah, 5M for Vatanen...not terrible, but TB could use some cap relief. Surely Drouin can't be asking for much more than that?