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Me neither. Winds of Winter is possible I quess.
He said today in an interview he expects to have it before July 2020
Me neither. Winds of Winter is possible I quess.
He said today in an interview he expects to have it before July 2020
That's very surprising, as he seems to have a firm policy of never giving a potential date, as it only creates expectation and disappointment.
I'd also be surprised if he gave that info in an interview, rather than his own blog.
Do you have a link, or details of which outlet?
I think all fans maintain different level of hope for the next book, but I'm not putting too much stock in a sarcastic quip.
Short of a firm promise by him and his publisher, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Honestly, this is mind boggling. He can't finish up the book in another year after having worked on it for so long already? There must be a lot of hand-wringing over certain details. I know this is cynical, but man it feels like he is using the blow back against the show to chart a somewhat different course with the books. Like it was a testing ground to see what resonates and what doesn't.
I think he's just bored with the whole thing.
He said we will find out what happens with Darkstar can't wait
I always wondered how much pressure played a role in him taking so long. I wonder if how poorly the last season has been received will help take pressure off him, as in people just expect it to be a poor conclusion.
And me? I’m still here, and I’m still busy. As a producer, I’ve got five shows in development at HBO (some having nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Westeros), two at Hulu, one on the History Channel. I’m involved with a number of feature projects, some based upon my own stories and books, some on material created by others. There are these short films I am hoping to make, adaptations of classic stories by one of the most brilliant, quirky, and original writers our genre has ever produced. I’ve consulted on a video game out of Japan. And then there’s Meow Wolf…
What about Mance after he infiltrated Winterfell to save fake Arya? Ramsey apparently has him prisoner
I agree. I guess the overall message is one of anti-hereditary monarchy?
Bran being king is for sure the endgame, it is logically consistent and
I think the North being independent was probably fanservice, it's not an internally consistent outcome as the books would have Dorne and the Iron Islands also secede.
I think you are right. The Hodor reveal was a Chekhov Gun the show never fired, but almost has to be one GRRM intends to fire.
I suspect the books will reveal the 3ER/Bran have puppet mastered many events to lead to this exact outcome where Bran becomes king. Like Doctor Strange’s “there was no other way” on steroids.
To a degree, but don't the houses still have hederditary "warden" status. So its not completely changed. Just have a choice of like 20 people to be King rather than 1.
Some people in this thread in particular can’t seem to wrap their heads around certain ending plot points being unsatisfactory because of their execution. Mad Queen Dany and King Bran have the potential to work. In the show, they came off as utterly contrived and stupid. In the books, if given enough time to cook, they could 100% work. It’s all about motivation, plotting, believability, etc. It has nothing at all to do with those plot points in a vacuum.
So yeah, get it right, George. If you die, so be it. I’ve been waiting for these books off and on for 18 years. This is nothing new.
Yeah it's not likely we don't already have examples of changes made on the show, and sometimes even subtle changes can make a huge difference.
I think the first one that stood out to me, though I filed it under the D&D don't really understand strategy/tactics category, was in season 2 when Uncle Edmure thinks he did a good because he hit the Lannisters hard but Robb gives him a dressing down for disobeying orders and messing up his plans. On the show? He scowls and says: 'We were going to kill the Mountain'. In the books? He was trying to draw the Lannister army into engagement (crossing over a river) so they'd be entangled with the Northern forces and unable to retreat back to Kings Landing when they learned Stannis would be attacking it. Edmure attacking them while they were vulnerable crossing the river (I think it was) did some damage but it delayed their army enough to get the message and retreat.
I don't know, maybe they thought that would be too confusing for the show audience so they simplified it to killing the Gregor Clegane? Point is, in the books this was a strategy by Robb that would win the war against the Lannisters. With how the show represented him he was just mucking around the Riverlands looking like a bit of an idiot winning battles yes but showing no plan or ability to win the war. There were still factors in play that could have swung things back around but this was a very good plan to defeat Tywin that could have easily been but just wasn't in the show.
George very much cares about Asoiaf and the world he has created. He wouldn’t be writing 400 page books about the history of the Targaryens if he wasn’t.
The story is very dense and requires a lot of delicate plotting to safely land. We saw with the show that a rushed, sloppy ending really torches the entire house of cards.
I would rather George take all the time in the world to finish these books correctly. I would prefer no ending at all to a bad ending.
Some people in this thread in particular can’t seem to wrap their heads around certain ending plot points being unsatisfactory because of their execution. Mad Queen Dany and King Bran have the potential to work. In the show, they came off as utterly contrived and stupid. In the books, if given enough time to cook, they could 100% work. It’s all about motivation, plotting, believability, etc. It has nothing at all to do with those plot points in a vacuum.
So yeah, get it right, George. If you die, so be it. I’ve been waiting for these books off and on for 18 years. This is nothing new.
Yeah it's not likely we don't already have examples of changes made on the show, and sometimes even subtle changes can make a huge difference.
I think the first one that stood out to me, though I filed it under the D&D don't really understand strategy/tactics category, was in season 2 when Uncle Edmure thinks he did a good because he hit the Lannisters hard but Robb gives him a dressing down for disobeying orders and messing up his plans. On the show? He scowls and says: 'We were going to kill the Mountain'. In the books? He was trying to draw the Lannister army into engagement (crossing over a river) so they'd be entangled with the Northern forces and unable to retreat back to Kings Landing when they learned Stannis would be attacking it. Edmure attacking them while they were vulnerable crossing the river (I think it was) did some damage but it delayed their army enough to get the message and retreat.
I don't know, maybe they thought that would be too confusing for the show audience so they simplified it to killing the Gregor Clegane? Point is, in the books this was a strategy by Robb that would win the war against the Lannisters. With how the show represented him he was just mucking around the Riverlands looking like a bit of an idiot winning battles yes but showing no plan or ability to win the war. There were still factors in play that could have swung things back around but this was a very good plan to defeat Tywin that could have easily been but just wasn't in the show.
That's not anger bud. That is speaking matter of factly.You should really get help. You're unreasonably angry over this, the man owes you absolutely nothing. And, more to the point, there is nothing exceptional about the glacial pace of GRRM's writing in fantasy/sci fi terms. Look at Dune. Even Wheel of Time slowed from a two books a year pace to one every three years by the end. And both of those series had their author die before finishing.
If you do not like the pacing problems or the looming threat of the story never being finished, you should probably abandon genre fiction altogether.
Bran’s actor confirms King Bran comes from George.
I wouldn't think D&D would go with such a wacky result if it didn't come from George, just without his writing they had to wing it on the execution and it came off a bit odd.