Sportsnet: "A few middling NHL goaltenders could be had via trade." TORONTO - luke fox

[pth2]

The hardest part of any Allen deal is figuring out the cap space for next year. No prime assets would be involved. 2nd rounder, tops, more likely a 3d and/or a stalled prospect some Habs scouts still see potential in.

 

[Revansky]

You have no idea who Woll is do you?

Impressive stats in his short stint in the NHL. Why hasn't he played more than 30-35 games a year since turning pro ? Wouldn't a 1A-1B situation be better and more sustainable for the Leafs than having either Jones or Samsonov ? If Woll has a setback or gets hurt again, wouldn't that hurt your chance of a deep run ?

 

[Jumptheshark]

All those goalies suck...what's the point.

That's why the oilers did not bite and with more teams wanting goaltending? Teams and FANS won't lower their price

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Leafs want no part of that deal. People seem to forget we are in a tough spot because Woll has a high ankle sprain and is our starter. We just need a 1B goalie who can make a save as Samsonov is unplayable. When Woll comes back he will be our starter again

So essentially rely on a goalie with 26 regular season games and 4 playoff games to his name?
Seems logical in the final year or two left for Leafs window...

 

[Burkeocet]

Samsonov can simply be buried.

They send him down and he’s getting claimed regardless of his awful stats.

People forget Campbell was outplaying Skinner when he got sent down. Skinner was godawful (since turning it around) but the oilers knew he’d get claimed because of his age and the contract.

Someone would take a chance on Sammy too I imagine if he went down.

 

[HockeyVirus]

So essentially rely on a goalie with 26 regular season games and 4 playoff games to his name?
Seems logical in the final year or two left for Leafs window...

Leafs have a long window. Their window is Matthews contract. They have time to retool the roster and still compete for several seasons if they chose to.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Oh so Vladar or Allen gonna push Leafs over the top..lol

Probably not but they can get you to February for sure. Samsonov's mental is done. Those goalies can probably still win you games and will likely not let in more than 3.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

They send him down and he’s getting claimed regardless of his awful stats.

People forget Campbell was outplaying Skinner when he got sent down. Skinner was godawful (since turning it around) but the oilers knew he’d get claimed because of his age and the contract.

Someone would take a chance on Sammy too I imagine if he went down.

Nobody is claiming Samsonov lol. A nearly 4M 26 year old (27 in February) goalie with horrific play for the majority of his 15 games now, and only 1 good season beforehand.

Skinner is 2 years younger without a history of bad play, and had only played in 7 games (started 6) by the time Campbell was sent down

 

[Yatzhee]

Buffalo's price for Comrie is very reasonable. An old Ty Domie jersey so Rob Ray can get some decent sleep and stop sucking his thumb.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Probably not but they can get you to February for sure. Samsonov's mental is done. Those goalies can probably still win you games and will likely not let in more than 3.

Leafs have Jones and Hildeby to get then to Feb.

 

[FerrisRox]

Nah. Montreal won't be taking back a crap goalie. The reason they're looking to move a goalie is because they have 3 on the roster as it is.

If Montreal were to do that trade, they wouldn't much care about Samsonov.

They would just waive him and then send him to Laval and go with Montembeault and Primeau in net making the trade Jake Allen for two third round picks, which, to me, is a solid trade for Montreal.

 

[Petes2424]

Nobody’s gonna make this easy for the Leafs. The most frustrating part is, we’re likely gonna see some goalie movement, as others upgrade their net, and people are going to scream about why the Leafs didn’t get involved.

 

[12ozPapa]

This is UNHEARD OF. Middling goaltenders available for trade?!?! This is outlandish

 

[colchar]

Samsonov can simply be buried.

If they can put him on LTIR because his brain is broken, they can send him to Robidas Island.

 

[PAZ]

Woll has something those guys don't have and that is a solid foundation. Woll is mostly just sound positionally and in good technical form. Makes a lot of saves just by being big and in a good spot. Those goalies could never settle in like that.

But he also has the flexibility and skill to make crazy saves when needed.

That's the only thing Pickard had - positionally sound and good technical form. He didn't have enough athleticism to hack it long-term and it was all down hill from there.

 

[Boud]

Odd to mention Forsberg and Comrie here. Sure they've had their good stretches of play but it doesn't really make any sense to go for guys that aren't playing well at all.

Allen seems like an option. Probably the only viable option at this point in the season.

 

[Burkeocet]

Nobody is claiming Samsonov lol. A nearly 4M 26 year old (27 in February) goalie with horrific play for the majority of his 15 games now, and only 1 good season beforehand.

Skinner is 2 years younger without a history of bad play, and had only played in 7 games (started 6) by the time Campbell was sent down

There’s a lot of desperate teams right now. I wouldn’t rule it out. It’s 1 year and a reclamation project for free. He’s only 26.

 

[McJedi]

Samsonov can simply be buried.

No he can’t. He’d still be on the cap.

 

[pth2]

Samsonov can simply be buried.

Yeah, if Montreal takes Samsonov in an Allen deal, it's easy for them to bury him.

That ability to take Samsonov without issue might be enough to make Allen the best option for Toronto.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Knies+ for Markstrom @50% retained.

Without retention no chance I take that contract for free

 

[Jumptheshark]

If they can put him on LTIR because his brain is broken, they can send him to Robidas Island.

If that could happen Campbell would already me there

Knies+ for Markstrom @50% retained.

Without retention no chance I take that contract for free

Flamez can get more than that if they keep 50%

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Leafs have Jones and Hildeby to get then to Feb.

Yes Hildeby. The guy who's been in North America for like 3 months... I admit he's a decent prospect with potential but he's not nearly as good as Wolf and Wolf isn't better than Vladar yet

There’s a lot of desperate teams right now. I wouldn’t rule it out. It’s 1 year and a reclamation project for free. He’s only 26.

3.55 million. How many teams can afford that and would be willing to bet their season on the current worst goalie in the league. I'm willing to bet none

 

[Scintillating10]

Yes Hildeby. The guy who's been in North America for like 3 months... I admit he's a decent prospect with potential but he's not nearly as good as Wolf and Wolf isn't better than Vladar yet


3.55 million. How many teams can afford that and would be willing to bet their season on the current worst goalie in the league. I'm willing to bet none

I wouldn't claim him but Habs could take on Samsanov contract in a trade.

I am quite sure Leafs will add a goalie. They lost 3 in a row, sit 7th in conference. Woll coming back but he had long injury history and high ankle sprain usually takes 6 months before they themselves.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I’d take Jake Allen for cheap. Samsonov+pick/B prospect

 

[Qwijibo]

I’d take Jake Allen for cheap. Samsonov+pick/B prospect

I bet you would. But there'd be a cost to dump Samsoniv plus a price to aquire Allen.