Of course I made up the conversation, to make a point that you obviously got, and how would you know who I may or may not have come within twelve feet of?. Tampa got its franchise ONLY because Phil Esposito didnt quibble over the 50Mil, and why would he have?, it wasnt his dough. Thats Phil all over. Always someone elses turn to pick up the tab.
Well, if your in Florida, then Im quite certainj you've learned how to deal with us annoyingly passive-aggressive Canadians by now. Its quite likely every second neighbour youve got down there is from Trenton, Red Deer, Carelton Place, Timmins, Barrie...... Taking forever to make their minds up in the bread section of the local Safeway, whether to pay by cash or debit, the usual.
i don't see salt lake city being discussed as a possible market. it seems like that would be a decent market with just an nba team there now, could they support an NHL team?
So you're saying that Canadian owners are incompetent and incapable of reasoning for themselves? It was evil Americans that lied to them about the expansion, namely to dilute the Canadian content because Americans hate Canadians?
Seattle and Portland, Oregon have been ad inifniteum discussed numerous times HERE----neither has a suitable arena nor economic support to build said arena.... it's one of the reasons why Sacramento is having issues w/ ARCO/PBP BEING OUTDATED....
It's what cost Seattle its pro basketball franchise now in OKC....
as for Austin, etc.... how do you propose franchises not own or operate their affiliates such as Texas is to Dallas, Milwaukee to Nashville.....
Houston is majority owned is it not by Minnesota.........
Winnipeg has the Moose now but what happens if TNSE bites but doesn't acquire a franchise in which it will likely cost them their current franchise.....
Quebec: see Sacramento, Portland, Seattle, no arena, and even if an arena is built, is there enough of a fanbase that can support two franchises in the same city when the affiliate isn't Montreal but the fanbase supports a junior franchise as Quebec does w/ its Remparts and as Atlantic Canada has shown since the mid 90s beginning w/ Halifax.... same goes for Hartford, despite Baldwin's gimmickry w/ the Rangers AHL rebranding, you likely would've seen a Seattle (and did) scenario there although it took a year to build RBC
Southern Ontario hits both MLSE, Ottawa and Buffalo depending on how you slice that.
TOO MUCH VOLATITY has cost us, leagues, and even in some cases, teams, either running into trouble that the leagues have to step in to keep them afloat or as Fresno & Augusta showed a few years ago, were gone mid-season putting doubt into the credibility of the ECHL
yes. anybody who approves American expansion in TamPa Bay, Anaheim, Atlanta (twice), Sunrise, and Glendale is obviously stupid, or being subverted or coerced some how. No person with any intelligence would even seriously consider it.
And I never said Americans hate Canadians. Americans disregard Canadians. There's a big difference. I can explain to you in detail with facts and evidence about how American media, popular culture, general education, politics, and academia are invariably largely ignorant of the world and heavily self-centered. As a result the NHL has been negatively effected by, and continues to be threatened by American bias.
yes. anybody who approves American expansion in TamPa Bay, Anaheim, Atlanta (twice), Sunrise, and Glendale is obviously stupid, or being subverted or coerced some how. No person with any intelligence would even seriously consider it.
And I never said Americans hate Canadians. Americans disregard Canadians. There's a big difference. I can explain to you in detail with facts and evidence about how American media, popular culture, general education, politics, and academia are invariably largely ignorant of the world and heavily self-centered. As a result the NHL has been negatively effected by, and continues to be threatened by American bias.
and 2 of those teams have won the cup.
I've been a long time supporter of a 32 team NHL by 2015 (and MLB too...). I even like MoreOrr's unbalanced divisions as a temporary setup - it helps my thoughts on a 34 team league by 2024, and finally a 36 team league by 2030.
Expansion, talent wise is doable as long as it's done slooooowly. Population growth needs a chance to keep up. Remember, fifty years ago people thought baseball was nearly maxed out at 16 teams. By the eighties, 24 team leagues seemed to be the max. Populations grow, small cities grow into new markets. Sixty years ago, who could have imagined Phoenix and Miami growing into what they are today?
That's not to say league size is infinitely expandable. The NFL and NBA are likely capped at 32 teams. The NHL could go bigger only because of its Canadian markets.
So here's my hair-brained ideas: Add Winnipeg and Quebec soon, then eventually one more in Canada and three more in the States...
Phoenix could win the cup as well.
It does not mean it is a good hockey market.
Let me ask a question.
What is so "magical" about the number 32?
Or should we change the NHL's name to the National Copycat League?
If Phoenix won the Cup and had solid ownership to keep the team there, they would succeed as a market. You can't expect fans to show up after six years of suck that is mixed in with a lockout and a bankruptcy/fear of relocation hovering over the franchise.
Let me ask a question.
What is so "magical" about the number 32?
Or should we change the NHL's name to the National Copycat League?
But it is "more".
Ive always believed "less is more" Orr.
Id like less teams & less regular season games.
yes. anybody who approves American expansion in TamPa Bay, Anaheim, Atlanta (twice), Sunrise, and Glendale is obviously stupid, or being subverted or coerced some how. No person with any intelligence would even seriously consider it.
And I never said Americans hate Canadians. Americans disregard Canadians. There's a big difference. I can explain to you in detail with facts and evidence about how American media, popular culture, general education, politics, and academia are invariably largely ignorant of the world and heavily self-centered. As a result the NHL has been negatively effected by, and continues to be threatened by American bias.
So I should be "LessOrr".
according to Wikipedia the Rose Garden in Portland seats 18,000 for ice hockey.
how is that not NHL ready? ? ?