Post-Game Talk: #50 | Bruins at Flyers | January 27, 2024 | Flyers lose 6-2

deadhead

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Weird game, they came out strong, then had a few minute slump where everything Boston did worked. Pastrnak had a perfect shot that beat Ersson, a fluky deflected shot that had eyes for the upper left corner, and a couple hard work goals that showed why the Flyers need more size on defense. All those mobile D-men are great until the puck is below the faceoff circles, then you need to win puck battles and win battles in front of the net. Rest of the game they tried hard, but they kept missing connections, while Ullmark showed why he's a top goaltender.

It's not like Boston is full of elite talent, Pastrnak, McAvoy and ??? Even Marchand is a bit long in the tooth, Coyle is having his career year, Zacha was a reject from NJ, etc. They're just a really good TEAM with a great goalie tandem. It'll be interesting to see how deep they get into the playoffs this season.

Lycksell is a different player than last year, he's stronger, and the extra time in the AHL has made him understand that he can't finesse his way through the NHL. Looked like he's still getting used to NHL speed on a couple plays where he thought he had more time. But worked hard and made things happen.

TK is pressing, a couple shots where he rushed and missed the net - he needs to pot that one goal and relax and he'll go on another scoring streak.

York played much better with Risto, while Drysdale and Sanheim didn't look that good together, one puck, two guys who need the puck, zero guys who play physical defense. Sanheim is back to his career norm, a solid 2nd pair guy ideally paired with a defense first partner..

Poehling makes things happen but needs to be more structured on defense.

Foerster had two nice goals, that's the shot that was supposed to be his bread and butter, ironically, it's everything else he's done right from defense, board battles and passing. I think he's going to be the complete package when he grows up, he just turned 22, rookie season, still has room to fill out and with hard work add a little speed. But it takes time.

They desperately need a physical 2C type. Doesn't have to be elite, just someone who can anchor a line with Cates and Foerster that can both defend and score. Laughton and Poehling just don't fit that role.
 

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Once the AS break is over the contending teams start to get serious about every game. This bunch isn’t going to sneak up on anyone any longer. Probably lose two out of every three games that they play for the rest of the season for 75 or so points. At some point here DB has to face the reality of the situation by shedding players and bringing up some guys from LV-Desnoyers, Attard and perhaps one or two others. There’s nothing to lose. This bunch isn’t making the POs.
I don't think they ever expected to make the playoffs, when things were going good both Torts and Briere tried to lower expectations. But the Hart thing has probably impacted the clubhouse for weeks, you know they probably had wind of something.

While there is a talent issue, there is just as much a "mismatch" issue. Two many RWs, though if Lycksell is for real and with Cates back, no longer a hole at LW, but 2C/3C is a black hole with Poehling/Laughton. Drysdale and Sanheim are a bad match, and Seeler/Walker are solid but limited.

So it's not just about playing kids, it's about do you try to fill holes now or limp through until summer and make changes. They need a center and a physical defense first LHD to pair with Drysdale. Bonk will help on the right side, but he's a year or two away. No centers in the system.
 
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I know that the Flyers will be sellers at the trade deadline, people who think they should try to acquire a player to assist with the possibility of making a wild card push are dreaming. There is one thing that I was thinking that might make sense to help take some of the pressure away from Sam Ersson, and that would be make a trade to acquire a veteran goalie to share the duties of goaltending for the remainder of the season. Who is available? What would it cost to acquire a decent veteran goalie to close out the season?
 
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I know that the Flyers will be sellers at the trade deadline, people who think they should try to acquire a player to assist with the possibility of making a wild card push are dreaming. There is one thing that I was thinking that might make sense to help take some of the pressure away from Sam Ersson, and that would be make a trade to acquire a veteran goalie to share the duties of goaltending for the remainder of the season. Who is available? What would it cost to acquire a decent veteran goalie to close out the season?
Doubt you can upgrade over Peterson without giving significant assets, a number of PO teams are looking for goalies.

The reason to acquire a center wouldn't be for a playoff push, but having a 3rd center who can actually play in the top 9 would help the development of young wings. But I'm thinking more of a throw in as a salary dump than committing real assets.

Farabee - Couts - TK
Lycksell/Atkinson - Frost - Tippett
Cates - ??? - Foerster
Laughton - Poehling - Hathaway

Don't know who'll be moved at the TDL, contracts come into play, but I think Atkinson, Laughton and maybeHathaway will be moved this summer, with Brink needing a spot and Briere probably wanting to add more young low cost players like Poehling as FAs. Deslauriers is pretty much buried already.
 

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Frost leading the team in xGF% at 86%, while not being on the ice for any goals against, and only playing more than the 4th line, encapsulates the absurdity of his entire year (career?). His positives so seldom acknowledged and encouraged.
So pathetic on Tortorella. Can't wait for Briere to move Frost this summer for Ryan Reeves


Bill actually using his smarts to make a post. He hasn't done that in years. Guess who's now on Tortorella's shit list?
 

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I don't think they ever expected to make the playoffs, when things were going good both Torts and Briere tried to lower expectations. But the Hart thing has probably impacted the clubhouse for weeks, you know they probably had wind of something.

While there is a talent issue, there is just as much a "mismatch" issue. Two many RWs, though if Lycksell is for real and with Cates back, no longer a hole at LW, but 2C/3C is a black hole with Poehling/Laughton. Drysdale and Sanheim are a bad match, and Seeler/Walker are solid but limited.

So it's not just about playing kids, it's about do you try to fill holes now or limp through until summer and make changes. They need a center and a physical defense first LHD to pair with Drysdale. Bonk will help on the right side, but he's a year or two away. No centers in the system.
"Two(sic) many right wings"?? Wingers are basically interchangeable for which side they play, or at very least should be. Just a weak excuse. If its an issue changing sides, probably shouldn't be in NHL.
 

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I know that the Flyers will be sellers at the trade deadline, people who think they should try to acquire a player to assist with the possibility of making a wild card push are dreaming. There is one thing that I was thinking that might make sense to help take some of the pressure away from Sam Ersson, and that would be make a trade to acquire a veteran goalie to share the duties of goaltending for the remainder of the season. Who is available? What would it cost to acquire a decent veteran goalie to close out the season?

Jack Campbel is available. :D
 

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Frost,Frost, Frost. It's not going to turn things around by giving him more minutes, there's more to it. The Flyers have lost their MOJO. Their being out hustled and definitely out muscled. To much stick checking and not body checking. We lack high end scoring and need to slow the other team's stars. No one is looking to give us players for nothing in return. The few good players we have we can't afford to get rid of. Stay the course and. build as planned. Today was a prime example, no one touched Pasta all game and he lit us up. Pull up the big boy pants and make the opposition work through the Flyers checking. Teams are playing thru us easily.
 

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Frost leading the team in xGF% at 86%, while not being on the ice for any goals against, and only playing more than the 4th line, encapsulates the absurdity of his entire year (career?). His positives so seldom acknowledged and encouraged.
According to EH, he lead the team in both xGF/60 and xGA/60.

I can’t understand why he hasn’t asked for a trade yet.
 

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"Two(sic) many right wings"?? Wingers are basically interchangeable for which side they play, or at very least should be. Just a weak excuse. If its an issue changing sides, probably shouldn't be in NHL.
Huh? What?

Some players can play both sides, others are more comfortable on their "natural" side.

Depends on the player, also depends on experience, tough for a young player to both get used to NHL speed and to play his off side.
 

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Frost,Frost, Frost. It's not going to turn things around by giving him more minutes, there's more to it. The Flyers have lost their MOJO. Their being out hustled and definitely out muscled. To much stick checking and not body checking. We lack high end scoring and need to slow the other team's stars. No one is looking to give us players for nothing in return. The few good players we have we can't afford to get rid of. Stay the course and. build as planned. Today was a prime example, no one touched Pasta all game and he lit us up. Pull up the big boy pants and make the opposition work through the Flyers checking. Teams are playing thru us easily.
Wait i thought this team was hard to play against....
 

deadhead

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"Frosts name pops up" - what exactly does that mean?
Other teams always mention names they're interested in, and Briere has said that anyone is available for a price.
However, nothing so far say Breire is willing to take a discount for any player.
 
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