GDT: 5/23/18 - 8:00PM EDT - #1M Washington VS #1A Tampa Bay [ECF GAME 7]

[Stammertime91]

The troll threads are out in full force tonight on the main boards I see.

Considering +20 teams have been eating saltines and cheese at the country club and watching the playoffs, they are happy we are out of it. We've beaten a lot of teams and have a lot of people hate us for it.

I hope Gallant exposes their back end and everybody sees what an overrated and smug f***face Holtby is. Per the usual.

 

[Antiramie]

If Bowness was fired before I fall asleep I would be thrilled.

Trade Johnson, Killorn and dangle McDonagh out there. Bundle Miller with him. They were absolute DUDS. I doubt McDonagh is moved as that would be uncharacteristic but he shouldn't be resigned. He was **** on ice.



I'm extremely disappointed.

I wouldn’t be so hard on Miller if he didn’t already have the reputation with Rangers fans as being playoff cancer.

Our D to me is the biggest issue. Stralman is the only guy who is pretty consistent. And we’re not getting any younger. I think we’re going to see a big shift in the next few years of sacrificing some of our forward depth for defense/draft picks that we’ll use on Dmen.

 

[Bolt 45]

If Bowness was fired before I fall asleep I would be thrilled.

Trade Johnson, Killorn and dangle McDonagh out there. Bundle Miller with him. They were absolute DUDS. I doubt McDonagh is moved as that would be uncharacteristic but he shouldn't be resigned. He was **** on ice.



I'm extremely disappointed.

I get that you're disappointed. I'm with you on Killer and TJ. They signed nice contracts and then vanished. It's probably time to move on from them.

BUT, try to keep in mind that neither McD nor Miller had any say in being traded. They didn't screw us over. It is what it is. We thought they were the pieces we needed and they weren't. Just one of those things.

 

[Todd1a]

Yes I don’t mean blow it up but need to make some moves. We need to get a little harder to play against. That was too soft.

Exactly man I’m for keeping speed but each time we get to round 3 we are to easy to play against

 

[DFC]

I think Washington will beat Vegas in fewer than 7. They're on a mission.

As for us, I think we'll tweak what we have and come back a little bigger/heavier. I think we'll see Joseph on the team full time, maybe Stephens, maybe Volkov. I doubt the D changes much next year. Hopefully we'll get an improved version of Sergachev.

 

[Cigar City]

TBH at this point I'm on team "Only untouchables are 91-21-86, 77-98, 88"

don't @ me

 

[TheSchmidt]

can't imagine anybody is taking that Killorn contract off our hands

 

[Master P]

can't imagine anybody is taking that Killorn contract off our hands

Seattle?

 

[Antiramie]

I think Washington will beat Vegas in fewer than 7. They're on a mission.

As for us, I think we'll tweak what we have and come back a little bigger/heavier. I think we'll see Joseph on the team full time, maybe Stephens, maybe Volkov. I doubt the D changes much next year. Hopefully we'll get an improved version of Sergachev.

You don’t think all the Vegas outcasts are on a mission too?

I think that series is going to be nuts.

 

[Todd1a]

Mcdonagh came off a 7 week injury to us give him a offseason and a full season in Tampa to see what he can do for real

 

[Antiramie]

Mcdonagh came off a 7 week injury to us give him a offseason and a full season in Tampa to see what he can do for real

You mean besides probably getting hurt again?

 

[DFC]

You don’t think all the Vegas outcasts are on a mission too?

I think that series is going to be nuts.

I think Vegas gets an A for effort, has an outstanding coach, and is getting outstanding goaltending. Some games they looked great, others they looked horrific. I just think Washington has all those same things going for them right now, but with a hell of a lot more talent on the team.

 

[Cigar City]

Lack of mobility on the back end exposed us, ultimately. Need quicker puck movers on D.

 

[Bolt 45]

I think Washington will beat Vegas in fewer than 7. They're on a mission.

As for us, I think we'll tweak what we have and come back a little bigger/heavier. I think we'll see Joseph on the team full time, maybe Stephens, maybe Volkov. I doubt the D changes much next year. Hopefully we'll get an improved version of Sergachev.

I mean, I feel like we're getting into a habit of kind of refashioning our team after whichever team knocks us out, only to get bounced by a different kind of roster. For most of the year we looked more like the Penguins than the Penguins did. Can't keep chasing a fluid thing, basically. I feel like we've just got to adopt a system that will maximize the hell out of whatever we're projected to have roster-wise for the next few years.

 

[DFC]

TBH at this point I'm on team "Only untouchables are 91-21-86, 77-98, 88"

don't @ me

I think most of us are on that team literally all the time. That's a big untouchable list.

I'd trade either Stamkos or Sergachev if someone made an offer that made sense. I just can't picture an offer making sense for the other three.

 

[Stammertime91]

who were the tough guys on these latest Penguins teams and the Chicago cup teams?

There's a difference between playing big and playing small. We can play big against certain teams like we did against Boston, but when we come up against a team with bigger forwards, we collapsed like in this round. Chicago edged us in experience. We hobbled in that series. Pens banged us but not like this. Kunitz primarily who did f*** all this round. They played heavy. They aren't huge but their style was a heavy forecheck. Ours is soft in comparison and our midgets can't play that big. We need a couple speedy guys that can play that style AND be above 6'2". The tiny forward model has run it's course. We got f***ed this round because Point, Johnson etc were snuffed out with no room to do anything. Sucks.

 

[Master P]

I really miss Torts

 

[DFC]

I mean, I feel like we're getting into a habit of kind of refashioning our team after whichever team knocks us out, only to get bounced by a different kind of roster. For most of the year we looked more like the Penguins than the Penguins did. Can't keep chasing a fluid thing, basically. I feel like we've just got to adopt a system that will maximize the hell out of whatever we're projected to have roster-wise for the next few years.

Yeah, but I think we set things in motion to "get bigger" last year, not this year, at the draft, when we chose a lot of bigger, sturdier guys than usual. I actually don't think we'll go out and make moves for bigger players. I just think the ones we already have are going to get longer looks in training camp.

 

[Master P]

There's a difference between playing big and playing small. We can play big against certain teams like we did against Boston, but when we come up against a team with bigger forwards, we collapsed like in this round. Chicago edged us in experience. We hobbled in that series. Pens banged us but not like this. Kunitz primarily who did **** all this round. They played heavy. They aren't huge but their style was a heavy forecheck. Ours is soft in comparison and our midgets can't play that big. We need a couple speedy guys that can play that style AND be above 6'2". The tiny forward model has run it's course. We got ****ed this round because Point, Johnson etc were snuffed out with no room to do anything. Sucks.

I wonder how Volkov is doing.

 

[DFC]

There's a difference between playing big and playing small. We can play big against certain teams like we did against Boston, but when we come up against a team with bigger forwards, we collapsed like in this round. Chicago edged us in experience. We hobbled in that series. Pens banged us but not like this. Kunitz primarily who did **** all this round. They played heavy. They aren't huge but their style was a heavy forecheck. Ours is soft in comparison and our midgets can't play that big. We need a couple speedy guys that can play that style AND be above 6'2". The tiny forward model has run it's course. We got ****ed this round because Point, Johnson etc were snuffed out with no room to do anything. Sucks.

The 2016 Pens team that beat us was otherworldly. That's one of the most dominant playoff teams we're ever going to see in the cap era.

 

[Cigar City]

I think most of us are on that team literally all the time. That's a big untouchable list.

I'd trade either Stamkos or Sergachev if someone made an offer that made sense. I just can't picture an offer making sense for the other three.

Honestly, the biggest silver lining of this shit was Sergachev. Not only did he do the little things offensively, but he stepped up his defensive play big time. I wouldn't move him.

 

[Master P]

Honestly, the biggest silver lining of this **** was Sergachev. Not only did he do the little things offensively, but he stepped up his defensive play big time. I wouldn't move him.

I'd also like to throw in Vassy's name. He played amazing for us.

 

[Bolt 45]

Yeah, but I think we set things in motion to "get bigger" last year, not this year, at the draft, when we chose a lot of bigger, sturdier guys than usual. I actually don't think we'll go out and make moves for bigger players. I just think the ones we already have are going to get longer looks in training camp.

Ah, I see. Maybe so.

 

[Antiramie]

I think most of us are on that team literally all the time. That's a big untouchable list.

I'd trade either Stamkos or Sergachev if someone made an offer that made sense. I just can't picture an offer making sense for the other three.

Sergachev, Point, and Vasy are absolutely untouchable. They’re our offensive and defensive futures.

Kucherov and Hedman are the next tier down. Would take a massive steal to trade these guys. But it’s near impossible.

Stralman is next tier.

Everyone else is expendable IMO.

Johnson and Killorn should be the first two gone. Whatever SY can do to make that happen.

 

[Bolt 45]

I'd also like to throw in Vassy's name. He played amazing for us.

And Cirelli. Can't wait to see what he looks like next year.