Post-Game Talk: #42 | FLYERS (A) vs. Capitals (H) | Tuesday, Apr. 13, 2021 | Another loss

[FlyerNutter]

I like his willingness to lash out at the club. Even though he’s been shit canned, I enjoy that considering the propaganda machine we are usually fed from.

His distaste for the players I even get to a point, but you can’t separate the coaching and management from the overall equation that has lead to where we are today.

 

[deadhead]

It's bizarre. Other teams routinely don't let up goals on routine defensive lapses that happen to everyone. And at the same time, defensive coverage is also bad on its own too.

It's a really stupid situation.

Didn't we just see Ullmark make 40 saves against us?

 

[Striiker]

Went back to look

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It's bizarre. Other teams routinely don't let up goals on routine defensive lapses that happen to everyone. And at the same time, defensive coverage is also bad on its own too.

It's a really stupid situation.

In the last month plus pretty much their mistakes have had a higher than normal probability of ending up in the back of the net. Hockey’s weird some times as things can really just snowball on you when it’s going bad. I’d imagine the whole team’s confidence is shot at this point. They’re probably always expecting the other shoe to drop when they’re out there.

Look at Detroit last year. They were arguably the worst team in the salary cap era. Their goal metrics in both directions was considerably worse than their actual shot/chance metrics. It just went south. They brought back essentially the same team this year & while still bad they’re not even the worst team in the league let alone historically bad.

 

[Striiker]

In the last month plus pretty much their mistakes have had a higher than normal probability of ending up in the back of the net. Hockey’s weird some times as things can really just snowball on you when it’s going bad. I’d imagine the whole team’s confidence is shot at this point. They’re probably always expecting the other shoe to drop when they’re out there.

Look at Detroit last year. They were arguably the worst team in the salary cap era. Their goal metrics in both directions was considerably worse than their actual shot/chance metrics. It just went south. They brought back essentially the same team this year & while still bad they’re not even the worst team in the league let alone historically bad.

Since March 1st...
Expected goals against: 56.81 (16th of 31)
Actual goals against: 98 (31st of 31)
Save %: 0.846 (31st of 31)
*this is at all strengths

And the actual goals against are 10 more than 30th place.

The coaching and system is a problem, without question, but if that was 100% of the problem then the expected goals against would be ranked similarly to the actual goals against.

It basically boils down to this: the overall roster is good, the overall process is mediocre, and the goaltending is historically bad.

 

[Stop the Madness]

Since March 1st...
Expected goals against: 56.81 (16th of 31)
Actual goals against: 98 (31st of 31)
Save %: 0.846 (31st of 31)
*this is at all strengths

And the actual goals against are 10 more than 30th place.

The coaching and system is a problem, without question, but if that was 100% of the problem then the expected goals against would be ranked similarly to the actual goals against.

It basically boils down to this: the overall roster is good, the overall process is mediocre, and the goaltending is historically bad.

Harts save % is 80th out of 91 total goalies so far this season LOL
Elliot is 72nd LOL

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Instead of continually blaming their defense, they really need to point to goaltending. Neil Greenberg had a great article on the Flyers goaltending. For example, when the Flyers gave up 9 to the Rangers, they should have only given up 2 or 3. This was based on the quality of the shots. He hit the nail on the head which most people seem to be missing for some reason.

Exactly. And it's been this way almost the entire season. We are witnessing HISTORICALLY bad goaltending.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Since March 1st...
Expected goals against: 56.81 (16th of 31)
Actual goals against: 98 (31st of 31)
Save %: 0.846 (31st of 31)
*this is at all strengths

And the actual goals against are 10 more than 30th place.

The coaching and system is a problem, without question, but if that was 100% of the problem then the expected goals against would be ranked similarly to the actual goals against.

It basically boils down to this: the overall roster is good, the overall process is mediocre, and the goaltending is historically bad.

Lol, Elliott is now putting himself in the race. He got dinged last night for -3.42 goals saved above expected.

 

[Striiker]

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Lol, Elliott is now putting himself in the race.

I wonder if he gets re-signed

 

[Magua]

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Lol, Elliott is now putting himself in the race. He got dinged last night for -3.42 goals saved above expected.

Of the 61 goalies listed this season, Juuse Saros ranks 4/61 in GSAx. Pekka Rinne ranks 56/61. They play on the same team, with an almost equal split in games played. The Predators are 18th in the NHL in xGA/60 all-situations. The Flyers are 8th.

Sometimes it's okay to say BOTH goalies are dumpster fires. Especially after performances like last night, with that reaction time and that technique, Elliott doesn't deserve any absolving. Though there's this weird narrative he's totally fine as a backup. Even last night, the media somehow pointed the finger away from Elliott and towards defensive misplays and energy, as if we don't know what totally incompetent goaltending looks like. It's almost like putrid goaltending saps skaters. HockeyGuys never disappoint in pinning the blame on simply "defense" though. It's the problem and the solution for everything.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

That's pretty disturbing.

In a season where the team was expected to take the next step forward, they've instead regressed to bottom half of the league. When all is said and done, I believe they will be bottom third.

This is the most significant off-season in as long as I can remember.

they have taken several steps backwards. It really is unacceptable. Why can’t we have the team we had before the pause last season? That team was fun to watch. This team? There are no redeeming qualities of this team outside of a small handful of players. Boring and not fun to watch since the playoffs began last season

 

[flyersnorth]

Went back to look

Man, this season has the most epic screenshots.

I love the Rangers one, I think, where there's like 4 Flyers on one guy and a wide open Ranger on the other side.