Post-Game Talk: #42 | Capitals at Flyers | January 11, 2023

[deadhead]

That was an entertaining game.

Tippett's goal was ... wow.

TK was a force, and so was Laughton.

Someone mentioned TK getting to 50 - last time we had a 40+ goal scorer was Jeff Carter in 2008, back when the Flyers played at the Wachovia Center!

Nice to have Boosh in the broadcast booth.

Boucher >> Jones as a hockey analyst.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I look forward to the other side of the fetishism when the party ends and it's time to make excuses for the God-Coach

That sample size will be just another inflection point that we should pay no attention to.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Boucher >> Jones as a hockey analyst.

You're missing about a billion of these >.

 

[macleish1974]

For the record, I don't care if they win or lose. I'm in wake me up when they clean house territory. Until then, they're hardcapping themselves. Even Bedard isn't fixing this.

I don't know Jojo.....last night's game was fun to watch against a fairly decent team. Sure the intensity would increase when, some day, they are in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final. And the glow would last a week or so;
but it ain't going to change my life in anyway.

This is my 40th year as a Flyer's fan. Yes I have been, too, hostile to the current set of executives in charge but in the end I am still watching them play. Win or lose........I am still going to make my stupid comments, invest in time searching the internet to post a cool song for GDT on this site. Why? This is MY community in which I invested time and thoughts with like minded people. I have learned a lot from you guys. And not just hockey.......

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Boucher >> Jones as a hockey analyst.

Boucher is one of the best.

I like Jones, but Boucher provides more insight.

 

[deadhead]

What will get interesting if the Flyers keep winning is Torts gets all the credit, which means his leverage in the organization increases, and he doesn't see eye to eye with Fletcher.

If Camillo replaces Scott, who do you think she'll side with?

 

[zizbuka]

Rebuild avoided!

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Is that one of those cabbage patch dolls?

 

[VladDrag]

Awesome! So based on what I read at naturalstattrick, the Flyers were the better team in these metrics, right? (just want to make sure I'm reading this right) lol

Yes.

 

[Beef Invictus]

What will get interesting if the Flyers keep winning is Torts gets all the credit, which means his leverage in the organization increases, and he doesn't see eye to eye with Fletcher.

If Camillo replaces Scott, who do you think she'll side with?

Tortorella doesn't run the organization. He has never been a shady Game of Thrones power player.

As a DC football fan I can assure you, you don't want to have a sports team where the coach is empowered by the owner-figure and gets to pick his boss. It's a backwards, dysfunctional way of working that ends in failure. If that's Camillos plan then she should be fired now too. Would save a lot of time.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Yes.

Thanks appreciate the help!

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I don't know Jojo.....last night's game was fun to watch against a fairly decent team. Sure the intensity would increase when, some day, they are in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final. And the glow would last a week or so;
but it ain't going to change my life in anyway.

This is my 40th year as a Flyer's fan. Yes I have been, too, hostile to the current set of executives in charge but in the end I am still watching them play. Win or lose........I am still going to make my stupid comments, invest in time searching the internet to post a cool song for GDT on this site. Why? This is MY community in which I invested time and thoughts with like minded people. I have learned a lot from you guys. And not just hockey.......

Good! I have no desire to kill anyone's enjoyment. I wish I could put everything aside and just enjoy the games, believe me.

As far as the community, I'm still here too for the same reasons. Luckily for me, my interest in hockey doesn't begin and end with one team. The game as a whole is slowly moving in better directions.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I still can't believe they had a chance to completely put the game away with a PP and put 2 defensemen out there to basically kill their own PP. Of course it ended up being a 1 goal game.

 

[deadhead]

Tortorella doesn't run the organization. He has never been a shady Game of Thrones power player.

As a DC football fan I can assure you, you don't want to have a sports team where the coach is empowered by the owner-figure and gets to pick his boss. It's a backwards, dysfunctional way of working that ends in failure. If that's Camillos plan then she should be fired now too. Would save a lot of time.

if you're going to build a team, you want the HC and the GM on the same page.

Torts seems to prefer Briere (probably b/c Briere is more realistic, having spent time away from the echo chamber), and hasn't exactly embraced Fletcher's moves (Hayes from 2C to 3LW, Risto to 5D, MacEwen 4RW, Deslauriers 10 minutes a night). The only Fletcher pickups that have gotten PT are Tippett, TDA and York, partially out of necessity. But notice all three are mobile and have offensive skills.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

if you're going to build a team, you want the HC and the GM on the same page.

Torts seems to prefer Briere (probably b/c Briere is more realistic, having spent time away from the echo chamber), and hasn't exactly embraced Fletcher's moves (Hayes from 2C to 3LW, Risto to 5D, MacEwen 4RW, Deslauriers 10 minutes a night). The only Fletcher pickups that have gotten PT are Tippett, TDA and York, partially out of necessity. But notice all three are mobile and have offensive skills.

It's been reported that Briere was a driving force behind signing Deslauriers.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Speaking of Deslauriers, can that guy ever handle a pass cleanly? Botches so many easy exits. They say you can't give a good player a bad pass...

 

[renberg]

Speaking of Deslauriers, can that guy ever handle a pass cleanly? Botches so many easy exits. They say you can't give a good player a bad pass...

Supposedly there were several teams that were after Deslaurier's services which caused the Flyers to need to go to a multi year offer in order to obtain him. It's time to find out who those teams were and shuffle him off to one of them.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Thoughts on my username?

Authenticly good.

 

[BernieParent]

“His story was better.”

Translation: "I get to write a much longer article than if Konecny was named on merit."

 

[deadhead]

Supposedly there were several teams that were after Deslaurier's services which caused the Flyers to need to go to a multi year offer in order to obtain him. It's time to find out who those teams were and shuffle him off to one of them.

He might well be moveable with $500K retained, there are teams that want that edge.
I don't think the idea of Deslauriers was bad, 4 years of Deslauriers was bad.
He did bring an edge to the forecheck that rubbed off the younger players, and provided a security blanket for them.

But bench him for a month and I'm sure he'll waive his NTC.

 

[macleish1974]

For Jeff.......

I forgot to mention that somewhere I have a version in which he attempts to play a sitar.....said fk it......I will make my guitar sound like one.....creative......however Jeff disowned the Yardbirds because they fired him.......besides they had another guitarist......oh his name.......Jimmy Page......the Yardbirds broke up in 1967 or early 68......Jimmy wanted the drummer and bass player to form a new band called Yardbirds II or the New Yardbirds, in the end they did not join........Jimmy invited some guys named Bonham, Plante, and Jones to play a gig to comply to a contract.......and the new manager named them Led Zeppelin. Jones was a session bass player and actually played on a few Yardbirds songs......attached is one of the last recorded Yardbird's songs......Page did not want this to see the light of day......it took 20 or so years before he would let it be released.

 

[Beef Invictus]

if you're going to build a team, you want the HC and the GM on the same page.

Torts seems to prefer Briere (probably b/c Briere is more realistic, having spent time away from the echo chamber), and hasn't exactly embraced Fletcher's moves (Hayes from 2C to 3LW, Risto to 5D, MacEwen 4RW, Deslauriers 10 minutes a night). The only Fletcher pickups that have gotten PT are Tippett, TDA and York, partially out of necessity. But notice all three are mobile and have offensive skills.

You don't want the HC having leverage over the GM. You don't want a GM bending to idiotic coach whims. That's how you get massive failures, like the Ghost situation.

Tortorella "prefers" Briere because everyone knows he's the future boss and he's sucking up in advance. This isn't a mystery. He's not Tywin Lannister.

 

[flyersnorth]

He might well be moveable with $500K retained, there are teams that want that edge.
I don't think the idea of Deslauriers was bad, 4 years of Deslauriers was bad.
He did bring an edge to the forecheck that rubbed off the younger players, and provided a security blanket for them.

But bench him for a month and I'm sure he'll waive his NTC.

This is another case of "if the cost doesn't make sense, don't pay it."

Deslauriers, Ristolainen, Ghost.

Or, perhaps more eloquently, what Kenny advised all those years ago.

"You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run"

 

[Rich Nixon]

I don't think the idea of Deslauriers was bad, 4 years of Deslauriers was bad.
He did bring an edge to the forecheck that rubbed off the younger players, and provided a security blanket for them.

But bench him for a month and I'm sure he'll waive his NTC.

What the hell does this mean? The idea of Deslauriers. He's as useless in year one as he will be in years two, three, and four. And he always would have been. The idea of Deslauriers. They didn't need to go to imaginationland to figure out what he was, he's a real live (quasi-) NHL player with hundreds of games to look at for reference. The idea.

And man, if the team needed f***ing Deslauriers to teach the youngsters how to forecheck, the entire hockey operations staff should be deepthroating shotgun barrels.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Not only is the idea of Deslauriers bad, the execution is bad.


A complete void on offense in a league steering towards offense is bad. It's a dumb idea. Filling the obsolete goon role is a dumb idea. They do nothing.


There is no move that will not be defended.

 

[Cody Webster]

This team may not be bottom 5 bad so if they can't draft Bedard, they should be trying to acquire as many 1st round picks in this draft.

We don't acquire first round picks, we attach them to players we're giving away for superior less players