Prospect Info: #41OA - Hurricanes select RW Noel Gunler (Luleå HF - SHL)

[Hischier and Hughes]

Also I was a bit shocked you guys passed on Daws at 41, what with Carolina’s goaltending needs

But luckily you guys got a keeper in his place instead... okay okay im done with the corny jokes now lmfao

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Despite being a top liner, Gunler only has 12.5 minutes today

Very popular in European leagues to play kids up the lineup but sit them shifts

 

[tigerman67]

Great pick. He said himself in an interview that it was a surprise with Canes being basically the only team pre-draft that he hadn't spoken to. I guess they didn't expect him to be available at this stage and just couldn't let him pass.
He's got a reputation of having bad work ethics, he's always been talked about since very early days and maybe have thought things will come without effort. But it seems to me at least that he's been stepping up on this area lately, maybe realizing talent only takes you half way.
I wouldn't say he's cocky on the ice, maybe in his earlier days. but nowadays playing with adults he's rather calm and quiet.

The main reason he's been playing few minutes in SHL has been his defensive work which has been far from OK, and has had a tendecy to take unneccesary penalties (hooking etc.). But he's getting better at that too day by day. The tools are definitely there for a top-6 winger, he's got both great skating, vision and shot, and if he's prepared to put in the effort it takes he's going to get there. But expect to give him at least also next year in SHL or AHL before trying him in the big league.

 

[bleedgreen]

I like this guys videos, decent analysis with great footage.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Reading the draft article on ch.com, sounds like the Waddell was considering offers to Trade down, but Yorke and Brindy has their say and they stayed put, as they didn’t think he’d be available at this pick.

 

[GoldiFox]

Gunler scores the winner for Lulea in the shootout

 

[MinJaBen]

On the Draft prospects board, someone translated an interview with him post draft. Most of it was just about who he is, but one thing that stood out to me was his answer about who interviewed him before the draft. The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

 

[A Star is Burns]

On the Draft prospects board, someone translated an interview with him post draft. Most of it was just about who he is, but one thing that stood out to me was his answer about who interviewed him before the draft. The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

You think we can afford a video conferencing system or those long-distance bills?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

You think we can afford a video conferencing system or those long-distance bills?

Dundon lowballed the system and it found a job elsewhere.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

On the Draft prospects board, someone translated an interview with him post draft. Most of it was just about who he is, but one thing that stood out to me was his answer about who interviewed him before the draft. The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

Saw that also. In the CH.com article, it says/implies that they thought there was no chance he’d be there at 41 so maybe they didn’t want to waste his or their time? Still a bit weird

 

[GoldiFox]

On the Draft prospects board, someone translated an interview with him post draft. Most of it was just about who he is, but one thing that stood out to me was his answer about who interviewed him before the draft. The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

I'd like to see where the Canes had him ranked. He could have been solidly in their #15-20 range where they figured there was no way they would select him with 3-4 higher ranked forwards that would be on the board but also that there was no way he would slip to #41.

 

[Lempo]

On the Draft prospects board, someone translated an interview with him post draft. Most of it was just about who he is, but one thing that stood out to me was his answer about who interviewed him before the draft. The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

We are not flakey and indecisive like other organizations.

 

[CandyCanes]

On the Draft prospects board, someone translated an interview with him post draft. Most of it was just about who he is, but one thing that stood out to me was his answer about who interviewed him before the draft. The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

Proof that our scouts just get their list from Scott Wheeler of the Athletic. Hints why Wheeler went crazy every time we took "his guy". Who needs to pay scouts when you get free scouting reports online.

 

[GoldiFox]

Proof that our scouts just get their list from Scott Wheeler of the Athletic. Hints why Wheeler went crazy every time we took "his guy". Who needs to pay scouts when you get free scouting reports online.

Hey now The Athletic is not free.

The Canes wait for a promo code and pay a hefty $50 per year for their amateur scouting.

It is interesting as I've seen people bashing the Canes draft because they took guys that were falling according to every Draft outlet in existence. Like the Canes draft wasn't edgy enough to be good.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

We are not flakey and indecisive like other organizations.

Or he’s an absolutely terrible interview.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Proof that our scouts just get their list from Scott Wheeler of the Athletic. Hints why Wheeler went crazy every time we took "his guy". Who needs to pay scouts when you get free scouting reports online.

In the ch.com article, it comes right out and says “the Canes' drafting strategy was predicated on a high level of hockey sense and the ability to effectively play the modern, possession-driven, transitional game - regardless of position or size or various other attribute.”

That’s basically what Wheeler and a bunch of others do, so it makes sense.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

Proof that our scouts just get their list from Scott Wheeler of the Athletic. Hints why Wheeler went crazy every time we took "his guy". Who needs to pay scouts when you get free scouting reports online.

I mean management has shown that they will cut everywhere else to put the money towards the on ice product. So as long as we hit on the picks I say 50 bucks well spent.

 

[emptyNedder]

The only team he didn't have an interview with: Canes.

Or he’s an absolutely terrible interview

We often talk about the "new model" the Canes seem to use. There is actually solid data showing that interviews in any hiring process are basically unproductive but sometimes harmful if the process doesn't intentionally try to mitigate bias.

I have anecdotal support for this as someone who has been involved in hiring more than a dozen people--the truly worst interviewee turned out to be one of the best hires.

 

[Canes]

We often talk about the "new model" the Canes seem to use. There is actually solid data showing that interviews in any hiring process are basically unproductive but sometimes harmful if the process doesn't intentionally try to mitigate bias.

I have anecdotal support for this as someone who has been involved in hiring more than a dozen people--the truly worst interviewee turned out to be one of the best hires.

I agree. I feel like interviews are actually more of a way for average or even subpar candidates to smooth talk their way into positions they may or may not actually be qualified for. It's literally only one small skill among many different types of skills useful to an organization. Thankfully a lot of companies/orgs have started to realize this and I doubt we're the only one.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I agree. I feel like interviews are actually more of a way for average or even subpar candidates to smooth talk their way into positions they may or may not actually be qualified for. It's literally only one small skill among many different types of skills useful to an organization. Thankfully a lot of companies/orgs have started to realize this and I doubt we're the only one.

I've had the opposite experience. I can't tell you how many people I've been ready to hire because they looked great on paper, and turned out to be blatantly unprofessional or incompetent in person. I used to work summers at a staffing agency and there were some real doozies. Without the interview process, we'd have been throwing our clients live grenades.

 

[SlavinAway]

I've had the opposite experience. I can't tell you how many people I've been ready to hire because they looked great on paper, and turned out to be blatantly unprofessional or incompetent in person. I used to work summers at a staffing agency and there were some real doozies. Without the interview process, we'd have been throwing our clients live grenades.

Yeah, it can obviously vary but they can still be beneficial in many cases.

I changed industries about 5 years ago and submitted 65-70 applications within about an 8-9 month period. On paper I had zero experience. I was offered a position by the first group willing to give me an interview because I was able to demonstrate I had done my homework to understand the position and could show how my previous experience was applicable. I've advanced quicker than any other employee in our group including those that came in with previous experience.

 

[DaveG]

I've had the opposite experience. I can't tell you how many people I've been ready to hire because they looked great on paper, and turned out to be blatantly unprofessional or incompetent in person. I used to work summers at a staffing agency and there were some real doozies. Without the interview process, we'd have been throwing our clients live grenades.

It can definitely vary. I've been in both sides of the equation where a potential co worker has been set up to cover a part of a shift with me, and where I've interviewed for positions.

The potential hires that interviewed came down to two people, one was technically skilled and didn't talk a lot, the other was extremely personable but I didn't get much of a sense for competency or an interest in developing said competencies when they were shadowing me. I advised for the technically skilled one. They went with the personable one and it was a complete f***ing disaster, they were gone within weeks and the other guy moved on by then.

I've also been on the other end of the interview and my biggest conclusion is the art of bullshit is something I'm sorely lacking. Mind you the economy was shit at the time but when I moved on from Duke it took months with well over a dozen interviews to land a position.

 

[CandyCanes]

I've had the opposite experience. I can't tell you how many people I've been ready to hire because they looked great on paper, and turned out to be blatantly unprofessional or incompetent in person. I used to work summers at a staffing agency and there were some real doozies. Without the interview process, we'd have been throwing our clients live grenades.

Yeah, it can obviously vary but they can still be beneficial in many cases.

I changed industries about 5 years ago and submitted 65-70 applications within about an 8-9 month period. On paper I had zero experience. I was offered a position by the first group willing to give me an interview because I was able to demonstrate I had done my homework to understand the position and could show how my previous experience was applicable. I've advanced quicker than any other employee in our group including those that came in with previous experience.

It can definitely vary. I've been in both sides of the equation where a potential co worker has been set up to cover a part of a shift with me, and where I've interviewed for positions.

The potential hires that interviewed came down to two people, one was technically skilled and didn't talk a lot, the other was extremely personable but I didn't get much of a sense for competency or an interest in developing said competencies when they were shadowing me. I advised for the technically skilled one. They went with the personable one and it was a complete f***ing disaster, they were gone within weeks and the other guy moved on by then.

I've also been on the other end of the interview and my biggest conclusion is the art of bullshit is something I'm sorely lacking. Mind you the economy was shit at the time but when I moved on from Duke it took months with well over a dozen interviews to land a position.

Noel Guenler, what a player.

 

[Lempo]

They went with the personable one and it was a complete f***ing disaster, they were gone within weeks and the other guy moved on by then.

Can you go back to the second choice guy in situations like these? He'd kind of have an upper hand in the relationship knowing that he's not that easy to replace, or at least it wouldn't be easy for this bunch.

 

[Jagge11]

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