Prospect Info: 33rd overall: Vancouver selects RW Kole Lind (Kelowna Rockets)

[BeardyCanuck03]

Bigger shoot first wingers (based on my quick research)
Jason Robertson
Kole Lind

High skilled Centers
Jaret-Anderson Dolan
Aleksi Heponiemi

My uneducated thoughts/picks

 

[sting101]

1 Josh Norris
2 Robert Thomas
3 Henri Jokiharju
4 Jesper Boqvist
5 Connor Timmons
6 Maxime Comtois
7 Jaret Anderson-Dolan

long list i know but it wouldn't suprise me if 5 of these guys go in the 1st 32 picks.

Keep the Swedes coming I guess

 

[Orca Smash]

No, Sekeres said it was Scott Reedy.

Wait thats who sekeres said were taking?

I think kuzmas article did mention benning said were taking a forward at 33.

 

[sting101]

Wait thats who sekeres said were taking?

I think kuzmas article did mention benning said were taking a forward at 33.

Reedy can't skate.

For 55
1. Max Gildon
2. Cole Lind
3. Mack Entwistle
4. Dylan Samberg

 

[biturbo19]

I don't think he's a good enough skater at his size or dynamic enough as a PMD, I have concerns that he'll be a "AAAA" player(using a baseball reference). I like his skill, but I don't think his overall package is enticing enough for me to take the plunge at 33.

I know he seems to be on everyone's target lists here so I'm prepared to get flamed because he has a nice stat line.

Yeah. I'm pretty much with you on that. He's obviously a popular target because stats and a fancy highlight reel, but i think there are some reasons to worry a bit that his toolset is just good enough to be a productive CHLer. As the speed and physicality ramps up, i think it'll be a lot harder for him to do what he does and get away with it.

Also have to always keep in mind that he's one of the oldest draft eligibles this year. Played the whole year as an 18 year old. His 17 year old season was nothing to write home about.

 

[DFAC]

From Timra too. Did he play on a line with Pettersson and Dahlen? 6 points in 16 SHL games is pretty good for a guy that young, most player that age don't get much ice time in the SHL.

Would prefer Hague but Boqvist looks intriguing. Would drive the anti-soft Swede all tuffness crowd nuts

Boqvist played on a line with Petersson an Dahlen for a bit

 

[y2kcanucks]

What is the appeal of JAD? Seems like a 3rd round pick or later to me

30+ goals, 70+ points for a guy who if born 4 days later would otherwise be looked at as a top 10 pick in next year's draft, or possibly top 5. Take him at 33, treat him like he's a 2018 draft pick. Reap the rewards.

 

[Nucker101]

30+ goals, 70+ points for a guy who if born 4 days later would otherwise be looked at as a top 10 pick in next year's draft, or possibly top 5. Take him at 33, treat him like he's a 2018 draft pick. Reap the rewards.

product of Kailer brah

 

[LeftCoast]

I think Connor Timmons fits the bill.

 

[Street Hawk]

Reedy can't skate.

For 55
1. Max Gildon
2. Cole Lind
3. Mack Entwistle
4. Dylan Samberg

I don't see Lind lasting until 55. I like him at #33. Banning seemed to indicate that he was likely targeting a forward at #33 vs a Dman. They need to keep adding goal scorers.

 

[Cupless44]

I wouldn't mind a player like Ratcliffe. Having the softest group of perimeter players as a forward group in the NHL gets really tiring, especially when it has been like that for years and we play in the most physical division in the league. Anyone who thinks its all about hockey IQ wasnt watching the Edmonton vs Anaheim series.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I wouldn't mind a player like Ratcliffe. Having the softest group of perimeter players as a forward group in the NHL gets really tiring, especially when it has been like that for years and we play in the most physical division in the league. Anyone who thinks its all about hockey IQ wasnt watching the Edmonton vs Anaheim series.

To me, losing is really tiring, but if we want to push the "we need to get more physical" narrative, that's OK too I suppose. We've been pushing for that ever since the WCE era and they folded like cheap tents annually.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Benning said that they are set on the wings with the Boesers, Goldobins, Baertschi's and Granlunds.

We have more than one of each?

 

[y2kcanucks]

I don't see Lind lasting until 55. I like him at #33. Banning seemed to indicate that he was likely targeting a forward at #33 vs a Dman. They need to keep adding goal scorers.

The ideal draft upcoming is probably Anderson-Dolan at 33, Josh Brook at 55, and Michael Dipietro at 64.

 

[VanJack]

I wouldn't mind a player like Ratcliffe. Having the softest group of perimeter players as a forward group in the NHL gets really tiring, especially when it has been like that for years and we play in the most physical division in the league. Anyone who thinks its all about hockey IQ wasnt watching the Edmonton vs Anaheim series.

Yes, the only players from Bob McKenzie's first round mock draft left are Hague, Timmins, Roberston and Ratcliffe....but suspect that the Av's will pluck one of the two d-men at #32...will be one of Hague/Timmins considering how thin they are on the blueline.

 

[y2kcanucks]

product of Kailer brah

Wrong

 

[Saturated Fats]

30+ goals, 70+ points for a guy who if born 4 days later would otherwise be looked at as a top 10 pick in next year's draft, or possibly top 5. Take him at 33, treat him like he's a 2018 draft pick. Reap the rewards.

That's a fair assessment, I didn't realize he was so young.

That being said, of the guys available, I think I'd prefer Lind.

 

[Nucker101]

Wrong

prove it, tough guy

 

[y2kcanucks]

That's a fair assessment, I didn't realize he was so young.

That being said, of the guys available, I think I'd prefer Lind.

Why?

I like Lind, don't get me wrong. But Anderson-Dolan is 11 months younger and put up 9 more goals (but 11 fewer points). That's almost a full year off. Compare Lind's production from 15-16 to JAD and it isn't even close.

The way I look at it, you're getting a top 10 pick from 2018 a year early.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

Wrong

Y2K'd the **** out.

 

[y2kcanucks]

prove it, tough guy

Edit: Ah hell, I'll bite. Here's a good article: http://thehockeywriters.com/jaret-anderson-dolan-2017-draft-prospect-profile/

And a little snippit:

It is easy (and wrong) to assume that last year Anderson-Dolan was a passenger on the Chiefs’ top line with the highly-touted winger Kailer Yamamoto.

And it goes on to explain why.

 

[biturbo19]

product of Kailer brah

I wouldn't say he's a product of Yamamoto per se. I think JAD benefits from having that kind of skill around him, and it probably helped his statline a fair bit. But i think what a guy like JAD can do is also pretty helpful and symbiotic for other skill players around him too. He's fast, hard on pucks, does work at both ends, gets himself open and doesn't hesitate to shoot the puck. And he has the hockey sense to complement other skill players.

It's the sort of combination of traits that i think make Anderson-Dolan a bit of a safer prospect. He'll find some way to claw his way into the NHL in a bottom-6 role if the skill he has doesn't pan out at the highest level. It's actually his "ceiling" that i'm not sure is actually sky high.

 

[Nucker101]

I wouldn't say he's a product of Yamamoto per se. I think JAD benefits from having that kind of skill around him, and it probably helped his statline a fair bit. But i think what a guy like JAD can do is also pretty helpful and symbiotic for other skill players around him too. He's fast, hard on pucks, does work at both ends, gets himself open and doesn't hesitate to shoot the puck. And he has the hockey sense to complement other skill players.

It's the sort of combination of traits that i think make Anderson-Dolan a bit of a safer prospect. He'll find some way to claw his way into the NHL in a bottom-6 role if the skill he has doesn't pan out at the highest level. It's actually his "ceiling" that i'm not sure is actually sky high.

Yeah, on a more serious note i actually agree 100% which is why I'm a bit down on him compared to some other people.

 

[y2kcanucks]

I wouldn't say he's a product of Yamamoto per se. I think JAD benefits from having that kind of skill around him, and it probably helped his statline a fair bit. But i think what a guy like JAD can do is also pretty helpful and symbiotic for other skill players around him too. He's fast, hard on pucks, does work at both ends, gets himself open and doesn't hesitate to shoot the puck. And he has the hockey sense to complement other skill players.

It's the sort of combination of traits that i think make Anderson-Dolan a bit of a safer prospect. He'll find some way to claw his way into the NHL in a bottom-6 role if the skill he has doesn't pan out at the highest level. It's actually his "ceiling" that i'm not sure is actually sky high.

I see a lot of scouting reports that refer him as a middle 6 kind of guy. And I think that's fair. Ceiling is probably closer to a 2nd line C, while his floor is probably that of a 3rd line C. Either way, I like what elements he brings and he looks like he'll be a good pro player.

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

For me,

Robertson/Hague at 33

DiPietro at 55

Shaw/Lipanov at 64

I know Shaw seems early, but I get that Marchand vibe out of him, and despite being 5'8", I could easily see him playing at 180 lbs.