Value of: #3 or #5 picks

[CanadienShark]

Hence why I'm suggesting trading away these magic beans that might become stars for those other kind of players.

Without more money in salaries, our choice is stars OR depth, not stars AND depth.

You can't seem to wrap your head around this. Building a team that can legitimately compete for the Cup based around depth, not superstars, will cost you a lot. Overpaying for depth is what screws teams. You're better off with elite talent surrounded by young, cheaper, supporting talent.

 

[dumbdick]

You can't seem to wrap your head around this. Building a team that can legitimately compete for the Cup based around depth, not superstars, will cost you a lot. Overpaying for depth is what screws teams. You're better off with elite talent surrounded by young, cheaper, supporting talent.

I guess we disagree on this point. I see it the other way.

 

[alfstheman]

not at all
am still tweaking but in overview

- Oil want to trade up, give signif young assets. Check

- Rangers want to trade up, give signif young assets. Check
- Sens need lots of good pieces, get some immediate help + lots of youth/picks to draft or swap for some plug and play known players, also check.

My prop is variant on type of return Sens get.
You are not getting like Draistil + Oil 2020 for 3 and 5OA.
You're not getting similar to that.
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Sens do not need a lot of good pieces. Ottawa has a ton of very good prospects coming up but who are not top line elite players:

For Ottawa to actually agree to trade #3 or 5, it would have to be an overpayment, not be for a bunch of middle first round picks and middling players which we have tons of already.

It would have to be for an established elite top line player. Maybe Ottawa adds some of our prospects or additional picks but no way we are moving back for quantity

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

3 way
to Oil
2020 3OA [OTT via SJ]

to Sens
+ EDM 2020 1st, NYR 2020 1st, CAR/TOR 2020 1st, NYR 2020 3rd, NYR 2021 1ST
+ Buchnevich [rfa, next season 3.25 per] + Deangelo [deal pending project 5.5 ish mid term, more short term, less long term]

to NYR
OTT 2020 1st 5OA
Broberg
CBJ 2020 and 2021 2nd

Analysis:
Oil gets the pick it wants
Rangers the next pick + Broberg
Sens get ample 1sts and other pick value, top RD to pair w/Chabot plus a guy who can play either W first or second line

--------
separate deal
OTT 2021 4th + NYR 2020 6th + three 2020 7ths (NYR, NAS, VAN)
+ Smith 4.35 expires next season, bonus already paid
for
Gaborik rights 4.875 ltir + Sens 2021 3rd

On paper I expect OTT saves a little money and gets lesser picks to let NY upgrade from OTT 4 to OTT 3 next year.

GTFO with this garbage

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

3 way
to Oil
2020 3OA [OTT via SJ]

to Sens
+ EDM 2020 1st, NYR 2020 1st, CAR/TOR 2020 1st, NYR 2020 3rd, NYR 2021 1ST
+ Buchnevich [rfa, next season 3.25 per] + Deangelo [deal pending project 5.5 ish mid term, more short term, less long term]

to NYR
OTT 2020 1st 5OA
Broberg
CBJ 2020 and 2021 2nd

Analysis:
Oil gets the pick it wants
Rangers the next pick + Broberg
Sens get ample 1sts and other pick value, top RD to pair w/Chabot plus a guy who can play either W first or second line

--------
separate deal
OTT 2021 4th + NYR 2020 6th + three 2020 7ths (NYR, NAS, VAN)
+ Smith 4.35 expires next season, bonus already paid
for
Gaborik rights 4.875 ltir + Sens 2021 3rd

On paper I expect OTT saves a little money and gets lesser picks to let NY upgrade from OTT 4 to OTT 3 next year.

LMAO, if any team could give up a D prospect and 1st for 3rd overall you'd have almost every team in the league sending proposals...

Dude just stop.......