Post-Game Talk: #29: Coyotes at FLYERS, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2019, 7:00 pm ET
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TheKingPin
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It’s little things like this that cost you points in this type of game. The entire game I was saying ‘This has to come from a dman”. You see it all the time. Hot goalie, point lob gets it done with a screen. I would think Ghost getting 10 more minutes in this game would make that happen and get us a point.
PP needs to work or you lose this type of game. PK can help there but we have allowed a few now recently.
BiggE
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Let the players run their own damn powerplay, it’s bound to be an improvement. Therrien’s only job should be fetching coffee for AV.
Also FFS, why not get Ghost out there (paired with Myers or Provy) with the Giroux line anytime they are starting in the OZ?
AV might be doing a good job with overall 5/5 play and Yeo is certainly doing well with the PK, but this coaching staff is failing miserably with the PP. They also need to stop f***ing with Ghost and park Hagg’s ass in the press box where it belongs!
Also FFS, why not get Ghost out there (paired with Myers or Provy) with the Giroux line anytime they are starting in the OZ?
AV might be doing a good job with overall 5/5 play and Yeo is certainly doing well with the PK, but this coaching staff is failing miserably with the PP. They also need to stop f***ing with Ghost and park Hagg’s ass in the press box where it belongs!
JojoTheWhale
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They lost because Kuemper played extremely well and they happened to flub some great opportunities this time. No need to complicate this.
Not being the reason they lost is also no defense at all for icing 7D or Robert Hagg. It was terrible process, even if they won 8-1.
These are separate issues.
Not being the reason they lost is also no defense at all for icing 7D or Robert Hagg. It was terrible process, even if they won 8-1.
These are separate issues.
Bob Clarke Fan Club
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We dont need your logic here buddy.
What happened to the NHL getting tough on interference? Clutch and grab hockey is back.
Magua
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What a ringing endorsement of the PP systems.
What a ringing endorsement of the PP systems.
You're only on the PP < 8 minutes a game, it doesnt matter.
But supposedly it did work until Gordo came in and swapped the wings.
flyersnorth
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What a terrible hockey game to watch. Yuck.
Flyers dominated 5v5, but lost the special teams battle. Not sure what they can do to fix the PP - the forwards down low provide no value right now. I honestly can't even remember the last time JVR or anyone tipped the puck. It's all predictable perimeter play.
But hardly anyone was there to see it, so maybe it didn't happen.
Move on and beat Ottawa on Saturday.
Like, seriously. Don't freaking lose to Ottawa (who just shut down McJesus and the Leons).
Flyers dominated 5v5, but lost the special teams battle. Not sure what they can do to fix the PP - the forwards down low provide no value right now. I honestly can't even remember the last time JVR or anyone tipped the puck. It's all predictable perimeter play.
But hardly anyone was there to see it, so maybe it didn't happen.
Move on and beat Ottawa on Saturday.
Like, seriously. Don't freaking lose to Ottawa (who just shut down McJesus and the Leons).
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Striiker
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Who was available that was better that wanted to come here? Q, who it seems didn't want to come here, isn't doing better in Florida and he got the top FA goalie.
At some point you need to look at other things. Luck and poor coaching can only be blamed for part of it when the metrics are still there that good things should be occuring.
Also it's fun to see people whining when this team is winning. Can you imagine if they had the Devils or Kings record? This team is 7th overall in the whole league.
deadhead
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You win a few you should lose and lose a few you should win, over 82 games it tends to even out.
And AV coaches for the marathon, that is, a lot of his moves are build around a "100 game season," that is, preparing his teams not just to make the playoffs but to make noise in the playoffs.
And AV coaches for the marathon, that is, a lot of his moves are build around a "100 game season," that is, preparing his teams not just to make the playoffs but to make noise in the playoffs.
Adtar02
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Just food for thought.
We played 7 dmen. And were down one center. So only three. Not four. And one center who was playing well was benched in the 3rd. How does that help???
Edit: and I think av has done a good job. Don’t mind the system. Would like more controlled entries. Just pointing out something that’s mind boggling
Also just a thought. The forced dumps earlier were odd to me. It seem like he was forcing players to dump who’s strength is entries. And lines who need more possession to dump and chase and lines setup to dump and chase to do controlled entries.
We played 7 dmen. And were down one center. So only three. Not four. And one center who was playing well was benched in the 3rd. How does that help???
Edit: and I think av has done a good job. Don’t mind the system. Would like more controlled entries. Just pointing out something that’s mind boggling
Also just a thought. The forced dumps earlier were odd to me. It seem like he was forcing players to dump who’s strength is entries. And lines who need more possession to dump and chase and lines setup to dump and chase to do controlled entries.
Tripod
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Love how honest Jake is about the PP. They didn't need to re-invent it. All they had to do was tweak a few things....and I have used this example before.
The slot and net guys should be different handedness. When G has the puck on the left wall, let JVR slide out to be the "shooter option" in the slot for G to pass to for a quick shot. Have TK become the net guy.
Then when the puck goes over to Jake, TK becomes the slot guy as a "shooter option" for Jake, JVR the net guy. Ghost(should be on #1PP) can slide over closer to Jake while G becomes like a 2nd point guy, but in slightly. So Jake has 2 pass options(Ghost and JVR) and 2 shooter options(TK and G)....or shoots himself and we have 2 guys there for a rebound.
Or JVR slides out a bit as pass option for Jake, TK moves in for a quick shot option from JVR and Giroux moves into the slot area as another option if the pass gets by TK or if a rebound occurs.
We don't need to panic when the puck goes to the right side of the ice and ring it around the boards to Giroux. Set up a play based on where the puck is.
We DO need to move more on the PP, but we don't need to stop doing what has worked for years either. Just ADD to it like some things I mentioned above.
The slot and net guys should be different handedness. When G has the puck on the left wall, let JVR slide out to be the "shooter option" in the slot for G to pass to for a quick shot. Have TK become the net guy.
Then when the puck goes over to Jake, TK becomes the slot guy as a "shooter option" for Jake, JVR the net guy. Ghost(should be on #1PP) can slide over closer to Jake while G becomes like a 2nd point guy, but in slightly. So Jake has 2 pass options(Ghost and JVR) and 2 shooter options(TK and G)....or shoots himself and we have 2 guys there for a rebound.
Or JVR slides out a bit as pass option for Jake, TK moves in for a quick shot option from JVR and Giroux moves into the slot area as another option if the pass gets by TK or if a rebound occurs.
We don't need to panic when the puck goes to the right side of the ice and ring it around the boards to Giroux. Set up a play based on where the puck is.
We DO need to move more on the PP, but we don't need to stop doing what has worked for years either. Just ADD to it like some things I mentioned above.
flyersnorth
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They're on a 108 point pace. Will certainly ebb and flow throughout the season, but it's a big change from the last several years of garbage hockey. The team was unwatchable.
Right now, there's no one I dislike on the Flyers, and they seem like a really tight group having fun and gaining confidence.
Too many passers on the team though. Last night, I could have pummeled Oskar for passing up a Grade A shot location and choosing to make a pass that didn't work. Hayes did the same more than a few times. Jake, Frost also overpassed on a few chances. Sanheim took too long to get that shot off late in the game. ONE-TIME THAT PUPPY, SANNY!
Overall happy with the team though. It's the start of something good.
macleish1974
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The amount of interference they did in the slot and below the circles was unbelievable. It was impossible to get to a rebound. It was dead puck era levels of interference and boxing out.
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I don't get how a club like Arizona all of a sudden gets so much leeway from the refs like they are one of the Detroit dynasty teams.
Curufinwe
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I already wanted to trade Jake for his weak wrist shot and lack of points, and now we can add insubordination to that list.
although it wasn't the greatest game, by the flyers. i give the yotes and tocchet credit for not trying to play pond hockey, with a team that scored 6 in their last game. boring yes, but they gave themself the best chance to win. I hope the flyers can learn to win these types of games, because this will be what they face come playoff time.
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