Post-Game Talk: #29: Coyotes at FLYERS, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2019, 7:00 pm ET

[Rich Nixon]

Arizona leads their division in points. They aren't a pushover. Arizona winning the Cup with Rick Tocchet as head coach? Sounds as ludicrous as Craig Berube winning a Stanley Cup as head coach. Someone make Dave Brown a head coach.

Brash needs some cash, he’d be money. Slap him behind the bench in Tampa.

 

[tictactoe]

Arizona leads their division in points. They aren't a pushover. Arizona winning the Cup with Rick Tocchet as head coach? Sounds as ludicrous as Craig Berube winning a Stanley Cup as head coach. Someone make Dave Brown a head coach.

Easy there.. what cup?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Elliot
Haag
Forwards non scoring

Reason we lost

I wasn’t really serious. He is a f***ing idiot who’s submarining the PP which didn’t/hasn’t helped.

He’s also just a piece of shit human too.

 

[dragonoffrost]

If they were to have that game Arizona is the team to do it against.

Burn the tape and move on.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Fix the PP.

Can’t be a solid team long term with results as shitty as they have been.

 

[RemoAZ]

Sorry about that OEL dive guys. I f***ing hate that shit, especially from our captain. Hope he gets fined. Would not be sad to see him get traded just because of the diving. Kuemper's been this good all season though. He and Raanta are the only reasons why we have a good record.

 

[bennysflyers16]

I wasn’t really serious. He is a ****ing idiot who’s submarining the PP which didn’t/hasn’t helped.

He’s also just a piece of **** human too.

PP is struggling.

But G JVR TK Frost Provy with G on left wall, it’s not like we are rolling out slop.

Then Couts Ghost Jake Nisky Oskar

Players need to take some of the blame all I’m saying

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Easy there.. what cup?

In terms of Arizona? I don't think too many people gave the Blues a chance around this date last year.

 

[Foggy14]

The Flyers played well enough to win. It happens. But the PP needs to be fixed, not that it will get fixed by dearest Michel. And make sure to keep playing 7D with Hagg, who got butchered in his 8 minutes, while sapping time from Ghost, who was playing very well at both ends in a night we couldn't score. Das it mane.

F you Michael Therrien for our broken PP.

shoot the puck more and when you do shoot the puck at least hit the net.

The PP problems speak for themselves.

Another area I'd like to see our coaches work on is getting the boys to release their shots faster.

Sandy's blocked shot on a gorgeous chance to tie the game was due, in part, by a delay in letting it go. And he isn't the only one taking too much time and giving D-men and goalies a chance to set up.

Whatever that game was by the Coyotes is why hockey isn’t popular.

That was a chore to watch and I’m a diehard. Just awful entertainment.

Mind numbing, but an effective road game.

But when your whiff on the PP, you give teams like the Yotes a chance to succeed with the boring stuff.

 

[tictactoe]

In terms of Arizona? I don't think too many people gave the Blues a chance around this date last year.

Blues team was different.. they were built very well but played crappy hockey and no one knew why..

Yotes ain't shit.

 

[Amorgus]

The Flyers played well enough to win. It happens. But the PP needs to be fixed, not that it will get fixed by dearest Michel. And make sure to keep playing 7D with Hagg, who got butchered in his 8 minutes, while sapping time from Ghost, who was playing very well at both ends in a night we couldn't score. Das it mane.

All we can do is blame @Amorgus for attending his first game at the WFC and continue on with our lives.

If theres a next time I'm getting nose bleeds.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

They played beautifully systems-wise. So I’m very enthused despite the loss.

Scorers didn’t score.

AZ knows its identity: great D & great goaltending. They shelled up & won. Only GA was off a defender’s skate. They block a shit ton of shots.

I was skeptical of Tocchet as a coach, but he’s evolved & won my respect.

Still, Flyers are playing great & there will be games like this. 16 wins in 29 games. And playing beautiful structure.

Tons to be positive about.

 

[Adtar02]

The powerplay is officially a big problem. The chain smoking frenchman needs to make some changes.

5v5, Arizona did a good job keeping us to the outside, but we totally controlled the puck. I realize almost no one cares or believes me, but Vorobyev is a really good playmaker under pressure against the boards.

Sanheim was all over the offensive zone. He put himself in so many great spots. Really unlucky tonight.

The Frost line was very good again tonight 5v5. It was disheartening to see him benched in the 3rd. That didn't seem necessary.

Another game where the Hayes line was underwhelming. They've been fortunate from a goal perspective lately, but haven't generated possession/xGF%.

The pimp played tonight?

 

[Tripod]

In the end, we gotta score more...and shoot more.

Dressing Hagg was such a waste. Outchance 8-2(20%) while on the ice. Myers was next worst D at 8-6(42.86%). Every other Dman was over 60%.

 

[landsbergfan]

A wild Brian Borqupine

 

[landsbergfan]

The pimp played tonight?

He got played tonight

 

[Philly Fanatik]

Some people are going off on Therrien for our f***ed up powerplay...
Just a question....
How would the Flyers fix the GOD DAMN man advantage?

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Blues team was different.. they were built very well but played crappy hockey and no one knew why..

Yotes ain't ****.

Every so often sports produces a champions that no one expected. A surprise. That history labeled a shocker. Could Arizona fall flat? Of course. The '69 Mets. Onion beating Secretariat. Buster Douglas. Approaching 40 years ago in the Olympics at Lake Placid. I could add to the theme. The unexpected in the eyes of many can be blinding.

 

[Rebels57]

PP lost us the game. Fire Therrien.

Missed the net or over-passed on too-many good looks all game.

Arizona played like some of the lesser-skilled Trap-Era Devils. Just f***ing hideous hockey. The type that turns fans away if anything. Not at all surprised they cant attract new fans despite playing better. Vomit-inducing.

Ekman-Larsson is a piece of garbage. He has been for years but its under the radar.

Ive never seen officials get in the f***ing way so much in my life. f***ing clowns.

 

[tictactoe]

Every so often sports produces a champions that no one expected. A surprise. That history labeled a shocker. Could Arizona fall flat? Of course. The '69 Mets. Onion beating Secretariat. Buster Douglas. Approaching 40 years ago in the Olympics at Lake Placid. I could add to the theme. The unexpected in the eyes of many can be blinding.

I am surprised you did not mention 1980 USA Olympic hockey team... etc etc.. 16 win in hockey is no fluke.. did you see contender today? Sorry, I did not.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

I am surprised you did not mention 1980 USA Olympic hockey team... etc etc.. 16 win in hockey is no fluke.. did you see contender today? Sorry, I did not.

I did mention the U.S. Olympics team.

 

[Rebels57]

Whatever that game was by the Coyotes is why hockey isn’t popular.

That was a chore to watch and I’m a diehard. Just awful entertainment.

First game all season that I was legitimately angry at the style of play by the opposition. Why am I not surprised this is what Tocchet has to resort to?

 

[dragonoffrost]

Ok I must be an idiot Jake said what I've said all year about the PP.

 

[Striiker]

So many insanely stupid coaching decisions tonight. Truly remarkable.

-11 forwards, 7 D is never acceptable when you have a 12 forward and the 7th D is Hagg.
-Giroux being put on the right side of the PP yet again, in addition to the other standard idiotic PP decisions like having Provorov on PP1 and Ghost on PP2
-Benching Frost and putting JVR then Hayes on the top line instead is crazy stupid
-Defensemen usage, as always


Players mess up, like goaltending mistakes, defensive lapses, turnovers, over-passing, missing shots, and so on, but those are completely unavoidable and will always happen, no matter what, to every single player. What is avoidable are coaching mistakes that can be fixed with the snap of their fingers.

We may have been the better team tonight, but we lost and who knows if fixing any of these preventable mistakes could've made the whole difference.

*Disclaimer - this doesn't mean the loss was 100% the coaches fault. Nobody is saying that. But they did a LOT wrong*